For example, you put yourself through university by studying hard and working full time. Then someone says, you should thank god for giving you the strength. Like wtf do you mean, I busted my ass day in and day out but I’m supposed to thank god for it?

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    Organised Religion, sure

    But you’re coming at this from an incredibly colonial-centric POV

    There’s plenty of none-organised religions that are more akin to philosophy than to faith.

    And plenty of faiths that are not from colonial powers with an entirely different focus such as “protect the land”

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      Maybe we can think of religion as a multi-tool. Such a tool can be used as a screwdriver, a nail file, a bottle opener, etc.

      OP is saying religion has always been used for control. However, religion can be used for many other things as well, like spiritual fulfillment, moral guidance, and providing a social community. It being used for control doesn’t mean it can’t also be those things, just as a multi-tool used to open a bottle can also be used to tighten a screw.

      At least, that’s the way I interpreted this situation.

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      What makes you think I’m not fully aware of that?

      I’m talking about the dangers of exploiting religion, which remains one of humanity’s most serious problems, as is currently and undeniably illustrated by the monstrous regimes in the U.S. and Israel, for example.

      I never said that religion should be rejected outright or that it cannot also do good.

      I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion.

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        Probably cause I read the words you said

        Religion is, and always has been

        even the most unfair and exploitative conditions can still be portrayed as just

        Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me

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          You’re reading into my statement that it somehow implies I’m making some kind of fundamental claim about religion here. I’m sorry, but it’s simply a fact that religion is being misused for political purposes. I can’t help it if you’re turning that into a fundamental claim that isn’t there at all.

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              What else is there to say? This statement is correct: religion has always been misused for political purposes - that’s what the sentence says, not that religion itself is always misused; that’s your interpretation.

              Besides, if you’d read a little further, you probably would have figured out what I’m trying to say.