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  • rihatsu@lemmy.ziptoLinux@lemmy.mlX11 vs Wayland
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    9 hours ago

    Fair points all around. I wasn’t thinking about version locks for the LTS releases when I posted, and it looks like I wouldn’t have had an issue on GNOME 48.

    I think the maturity of the ecosystem has a larger impact on user experience than you’re giving it credit for. I understand wayland and the rest of the desktop ecosystem will someday (maybe today for those living on the bleeding edge) provide meaningful benefits over X11 without drawbacks. I’ll welcome it when it does, but in the meantime I don’t want to deal with troubleshooting my discord keybinds, or figuring out why Spotify has a weird window border. I want my desktop environment to Just Work™. It’s immaterial if the fault lies with wayland, GNOME, or Canonical for shipping wayland as a default while GNOME support still needed improvements. The end result is that as a user the only way to easily fix my problem is to use an X11 session instead of wayland, which makes wayland look like the problem.


  • rihatsu@lemmy.ziptoLinux@lemmy.mlX11 vs Wayland
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    10 hours ago

    Yes, you clearly understand the problem, thank you. If there’s a problem with filesystem permissions you can use tools like chmod, chown, and setfacl to fix them in a variety of ways.

    How do you fix a wayland session if your app doesn’t properly support GlobalShortcuts? Where’s the chmod 777 equivalent that lets the user say “I know this means this can spy on everything I do but I’d prefer this work today instead of waiting on a bug fix.” Without something like this, the entire desktop ecosystem needs to mature before you can call Wayland “polished.”


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    14 hours ago

    A year ago I got a new PC, installed Ubuntu 24.04 which defaults to Wayland, and installed discord. Push to talk wouldn’t work unless discord had mouse focus. I spent a few hours researching and trying different things before switching to X11 where it just immediately works.

    Tell me more about how polished Wayland is.