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    France (Germany also) defends Israeli attack, condemns Iran. How’s it going, “enlightenened democracies”?

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    Influential commentator Tucker Carlson urges Trump to ‘drop’ Israel

    Carlson has been a leading voice within right-wing circles calling for Trump to avoid being dragged to war with Iran by Israel.

    After Israel attacked Iran, the talk-show host, who spoke at the Republican National Convention last year, said the US should not support Netanyahu’s “war-hungry government” in the conflict.

    “If Israel wants to wage this war, it has every right to do so. It is a sovereign country, and it can do as it pleases. But not with America’s backing,” the Tucker Carlson Network morning newsletter read.

    It added that a war with Iran could “fuel the next generation of terrorism” or lead to the killing of thousands of Americans in the name of a foreign agenda.

    “It goes without saying that neither of those possibilities would be beneficial for the United States,” the newsletter said. “But there is another option: drop Israel. Let them fight their own wars.”

    Interesting 🤔

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    at least 50 people injured in the Israeli attack have been transferred to the Chamran Hospital

    […] 35 of those who were injured were women and children.

    Isn’treal can’t burn fast enough, sorry sack of shit of a state.

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    May the people of Iran can remain safe from the genocidal Zionist entity. The world is watching to see Iran’s response.

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        I mean yeah, they always know.

        The question is how invovled were they in the attack itself (logistics, access to US surveillance, planning, etc.)

        Trump seems to be implying this is “off hands” like he stopped engaging the Houthis in the red sea a while back.

        I wonder if this is Netanyahu thrashing a bit in an effort to keep the US invovled, or the US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

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          US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

          Why does the US care about that aspect. If the US wanted to it could directly attack Iran, and the only thing China or Russia would do is “tsk-tsk” the US. No one is going to bat for Iran, especially against the US.

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            Maybe because Trump claimed to be anti war when campaigning? Not that he ever seems to give a shit about being hypocritical.

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        One of the al-jazeera posters thinks that’s unlikely, and it’s more likely that Israel is having a “now or never” moment since Trump entered negotiations with Iran.

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            This is the most probable scenario, USA time and time again proven they are not interested with real nuclear compromise with Iran (or with anyone else for that matter).

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          It’s hard to know for sure, and either scenario is very plausible. Israel is certainly doing everything it can to force Trump’s hand here. Iran will have no choice but to respond, and then the Israeli lobby will put maximum pressure on the US to strike at Iran in response.

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            Al-Jazeera has repeatedly taken the opportunity to reframe the relationship between Israel and the rest of the imperial core as a domineering one. They have repeatedly undercut the resistance by painting them as the aggressors, “only making things worse” for the Palestinians. This only serves the US narrative.

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          Dawg, I am at my wit’s end with online communism posting. Why are we taking Qatari news media at face value in the year of our lord 2025

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      Of course they did, this is their porn. They’ve been beating the war drum on behalf of Israel for 20 years. Some of them have even been saying we should nuke Gaza & kill all the Palestinians. That is how sick these people are.

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    50m ago from aljazeera:


    Iran requests emergency meeting of UN Security Council Iran has requested an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council in the wake of Israeli attacks targeting its nuclear programme and military this morning, state media report.

    Amir Saeed Iravani, Iran’s permanent representative to the UN, made a written request for an emergency meeting of the council, calling for it to take “decisive action … against these criminal acts”, Iran’s Tasnim state news agency reported.

    “In a reckless, illegal and premeditated act, the Zionist regime has carried out a series of coordinated military attacks against the nuclear facilities and civilian infrastructure of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which are considered a clear violation of the UN Charter and the fundamental principles of international law, and whose dangerous consequences seriously threaten regional and international peace and security,” the letter said.

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    If you bomb a facility that is working with radioactive material that can be used to produce a nuclear bomb, isn’t there a pretty high risk of causing a meltdown? And if so isn’t that pretty similar to Israel dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran themselves?

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      I highly recommend watching the documentary Zero days which is almost a decade old now, but about stuxnet.

      It was mainly developed by Israel and the US specifically to target this very facility (natanz), and try to blow up nuclear centrifuges and slow down Iran’s nuclear enrichment program.

      The project failed (only managed to slow down their program for a few months) and was a prime case of blowback, since stuxnet infected critical infrastructure around the entire world, and even the US had to devote considerable resources protecting their systems from a virus they helped create.

      I believe there’s a pretty low chance of any meltdowns or nuclear events, due to so many fail-safes.

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        I believe there’s a pretty low chance of any meltdowns or nuclear events, due to so many fail-safes.

        Thanks for sharing your opinion. But wouldn’t it still be a serious safety hazard for the local population through contaminated air/water?

        And if no radioactive material is set free, isn’t it still available to keep producing nuclear weapons? According to a German article Iran is estimated to already have sufficient Uranium for 15 nuclear bombs.

        In my simple mind that means you either have to directly destroy that material (and potentially expose millions of people to it) or if you just destroy the production facilities, you can only slow down the enrichment of further material without impacting the current capabilities. Do I oversee something?

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      No. Not at all. Nuclear reactions requires a pretty compact geometry. An explosion is the opposite of that. You can irradiate an area, but not cause an actual reaction.

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    Iran’s response has to be the total destruction of the US Embassy in either Iraq or Israel or they will be a whipping boy for the next 20 years, or until the total collapse of the US Government.

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      Don’t worry, the total collapse of the US government is scheduled for this weekend.