Being such a menace, that Xinjiang is seen as the lesser of two evils. “At least the Chinese are not killing people outside of China!”
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Xi taking Napoleon’s quote “never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake” like a champ. Not that I support CCP but the current times is a massive propaganda and PR win for China.
They’re just doing what US did after WW2. Play nice for the cameras while coopting the ubermensch in the background.
There are no absolute clear heroes in geopolitics but i think the EU is the least evil among the major international players, even though there are repeated attempts at their own tech surveillance. That being said, the EU is better to root for.
I’m an American and I favor China more than the US
I’m Canadian and this mirrors how everyone I know feels.
I doubt this to be true.
I don’t doubt it a bit. China’s got issues, but when it comes to foreign policy they’re miles ahead of the US, especially these last couple years.
They are miles ahead of the US on genocide… And lets not talk about their cooked economy…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_on_Promoting_Ethnic_Unity_and_Progress
And Belts and Roads, they build garbage and try to enslave the country into letting them run rough shod over them. Its neo imperialism at is lamest…
Look I’m no tankie, I’m not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out.
…but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass.
Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence
Then you live in America. I do not, and buddy, we do not like your government.
Eeh. These kinds of global opinion polls are rarely worth anything, but I can see it being largely true. China has been making a real push to expand their soft power and it’s been pretty effective - see opinions on lemmy about china’s genocides for an example. It’s boosted opinions about them quite a bit at a time when the US is taking it’s rep for a relaxing drive off a cliff. The US rep will almost undoubtedly recover if/when we oust trump though - he just makes it so damn easy to hate him specifically, and his obsessive drive to make everything about himself has largely (and sometimes correctly) shifted the social burden of the fault for US crimes from the country as a whole to him and his cronies specifically.
I think insights regarding trends et cetera can be drawn from this poll.
Interesting point about the US behavior being tied to Trump’s brand.
Australia’s relationship with the US has taken a hit. The government is still keen to cosy up because it’s our only chance to maintain resistance to China’s influence. However, the public sentiment on the US isn’t very positive at all.
It’s true up here in Canada. Fuck America.
LOL. I don’t. The US is cooked. Yes China are assholes too, just less-so.
“Less asshole” Can we talk about the Uyghurs and the Falun Gong? Or how about they are in a current full country ethnic cleanse to make everyone Han?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_on_Promoting_Ethnic_Unity_and_Progress
You have to be a sick person to think we are worse than the ccp.
Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question.
Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US?
In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they’ve doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say “what’s the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?”
Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine?
The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump’s belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now.
Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages?
Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China’s human rights abuses.
Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always “bigger and better”, now you’re just assholes.
How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time?
Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised.
How many did mao kill? And his disastrous policy are still screwing up china to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
Then add in the rest you posted…
You did not look it up, did you? We’re talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today?
If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon’s bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company.
See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump.
I do acknowledge Mao’s killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy.
However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed.
The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China.
Also, China’s repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend.
Tell me when the US ever had a Tiananmen Square Massacre?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
All of china’s killings are monstrous and comparing the US to it is insanity.
I love china, been there more than once, I love the people they are so nice! But I fucking hate the ccp for what they have done to their own and everyone else.
Hopefully they punt winnie the lame pooh so I can go back and visit some friends.
Are these enough?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA.
No one cares about your whataboutism.
Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that’s the point of the entire article, comparing the two.
Though yes, the US is fucked right now.
Not like they’re saying it in English.
Are you an American, by any chance?
