Hi everyone! 👋 We still see people on the fediverse recommending OpenOffice, despite it having year-old unfixed security issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice#Security – So if you see someone recommending it, please inform them about the risks – but also that there are actively maintained successor projects (like LibreOffice). #foss #OpenSource
It looks the same as it did when I formed my opinion, and I keep checking it out on a yearly basis. I sincerely want to use it, but I get physical discomfort every time I open it. I have put a lot of effort into forcing myself to accept poorly designed foss alternatives but the look and feel of Libreoffice is simply intolerable.
I feel like you’re confusing the “look” with “layout”. Colors, margins, element sizes are not properly aligned, and it creates genuine physical discomfort
hm, if it’s not too much to ask, maybe a visual would help? Like, an example where Excel or some other program shows correct layout, and LibreOffice has incorrect?
I haven’t had much discomfort with LibreOffice and I tend to be pretty OCD and I do UI work, so … maybe I’ve just ignored it - would like to learn, though!
LibreOffice is good. Very good even. I just wish Calc always had a 1-to-1 feature parity with Excel for it’s formulas, it would make it so much easier to collaborate on a spreadsheet with others. I think I had to wait a few years on e.g. XLOOKUP.
It is pretty much the same as 20 years ago. That is, good enough for basic use cases but nowhere near as complete as MS Office. It isn’t a serious program for professional use.
For documents I started learning Typst and LaTeX a while ago and now I greatly prefer either of them over LibreOffice. Being able to write comments that don’t render in the PDF is also very useful (i.e. when I do my homework in LaTeX/Typst I’ll put class notes there as well)
I’ve tried writing a resume last month and prepare a presentation (Writer and Impress). And I was very frustrated by crashes and lack of features. The interface is quite good, more intuitive than the MS equivalents.
I don’t know what LibreOffice was like when y’all formed your opinions on it 20 years ago, but right now it’s pretty much perfect
It looks the same as it did when I formed my opinion, and I keep checking it out on a yearly basis. I sincerely want to use it, but I get physical discomfort every time I open it. I have put a lot of effort into forcing myself to accept poorly designed foss alternatives but the look and feel of Libreoffice is simply intolerable.
it doesn’t feel that different than Word and Excel, tbh - I don’t know what you’re talking about
I feel like you’re confusing the “look” with “layout”. Colors, margins, element sizes are not properly aligned, and it creates genuine physical discomfort
hm, if it’s not too much to ask, maybe a visual would help? Like, an example where Excel or some other program shows correct layout, and LibreOffice has incorrect?
I haven’t had much discomfort with LibreOffice and I tend to be pretty OCD and I do UI work, so … maybe I’ve just ignored it - would like to learn, though!
I woudnt call a software where its hard to rotate an image “perfect”
LibreOffice is good. Very good even. I just wish Calc always had a 1-to-1 feature parity with Excel for it’s formulas, it would make it so much easier to collaborate on a spreadsheet with others. I think I had to wait a few years on e.g. XLOOKUP.
It’s true, Excel specifically is head and shoulders above anything excel-like.
LO beats it in python support
But people using Python in excel usually make a standalone program that imports the Excel data
I prefer Google Sheets to Excel, but I still use LibreOffice Calc for everything anyway
It is pretty much the same as 20 years ago. That is, good enough for basic use cases but nowhere near as complete as MS Office. It isn’t a serious program for professional use.
For documents I started learning Typst and LaTeX a while ago and now I greatly prefer either of them over LibreOffice. Being able to write comments that don’t render in the PDF is also very useful (i.e. when I do my homework in LaTeX/Typst I’ll put class notes there as well)
Laughing Out Loud at you
Don’t laugh too loud, you’ll make LibreOffice Base crash somehow.
Wouldn’t you like that, professional Word monkey?
It’s not. Installed and tried last month. A bug that’s older that many people here with Fullscreen is still present.
Can you link the bug report please?
I’ve tried writing a resume last month and prepare a presentation (Writer and Impress). And I was very frustrated by crashes and lack of features. The interface is quite good, more intuitive than the MS equivalents.
However, OnlyOffice was really nice to use.