• 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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    Oh. I see the problem. You’re using Microsoft Teams. You’re supposed to be using Microsoft Teams. We sent out a PSA specifically telling users to only use Microsoft Teams, and we still have those idiots incessantly using Microsoft Teams.

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    Android also has this problem with stock and Google apps. google stopped using the name Google on their apps so now Google contacts is contacts, google clock is clock, etc. so you get two apps for each, one stock and one google except you don’t know which is which because they’re both called the same name and usually have very similar icons.

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      Go into Settings > Apps > <your app> and there you see the apps internal name. com.google.something is Google app. Disable it and clear cache & data.

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      On Google’s own phones these apps are the stock apps, and afaik OEMs don’t have to preinstall ALL of those apps, only the Play ones. Blame other OEMs for making it so confusing.

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      Google is worse, but no one knows about it because no one uses it.

      I think we’re on google chat and google meet (both separate for some reason) now. Before we had hangouts which could do both, and google duo, for just video calling, before we had allo, but before that we had google talk.

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        We have everything because there were different groups and changes along the way, and no one wanted to put in the effort or lose anything.

        Now things are mostly in teams, but files are not on SharePoint but Box, making it even more ridiculous.

        I loathe how messy my work laptop is with all these different variations of… Messaging.

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      Did you mean google hangouts or google chat or google meet or google voice or google messages?

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    For a while back then, I thought XMPP was going to solve integration between messaging apps. I even wrote a “serverless” multi-player game in college that used a chatroom as a link between game instances.

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        There was a glorious time where I had a single messaging app on my PC with Facebook Messenger contacts, Google Chat contacts, friends using Jabber specifically, and contacts on an IM popular in my country (think MSN).

        All together in a single app.

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          Believe it or not, Windows Phone 7 had that in 2010-2011, right into the OS itself. They integrated it on a per-contact level too, you just clicked on say Craig and had a drop-down to switch which service to message Craig on, but it was a single message history that integrated all the services. It was a damn good mobile OS, way ahead of the curve, easy on resources, slick animations, had UI/UX consistency, accessibility like putting all menus at the bottom of the screen so you can reach them with your thumb, including the damn browser address bar (which only now made it to Edge). But of course, being Microsoft, they fudged it horribly and it died a slow painful death while the head of Windows Phone kept denying it was dead like a damn cult leader.

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            Web OS had that all the way back on the original Palm Pre too. One messaging app that included SMS/MMS, Google Chat, AIM, facebook, Yahoo!, etc. It was a beautiful phone and I miss it almost as much as I miss Windows Phone.

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          I had something similar, I don’t recall everything it supported, but AIM was a thing then, lol.

          Pidgin, some client on Linux. That was a long time ago.

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    Every day I get 20 surveys after calls even though I have them disabled. Most of the time I leave one star, specify an audio issue, and then select “the other side couldn’t hear me”. I do this because it’s true, the other person didn’t answer and I left a voicemail you fucking piece of shit Teams.

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      Every day at work I ask co pilot to do task and when it fails and returns a completely fucken useless output I give it a thumbs up and submit it to Microsoft claiming the response was a useful response.

      I hope I’m poisoning the data somehow but I’m probably wasting my time.

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    I’ve always heard Teams is crap but I’ve never used it. My company is switching to it though. What crap things do I have to look forward to?

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        Neither, didn’t you pay attention? OP clearly said Teams, not Teams or Teams

        Imagine being an archeologist reading this thread in the year 3025. That’s why it all crashed, they must have been poisoned by the smog. Nothing else can explain such a sudden onset of cognitive disabilities

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      If you have any key depressed, for any reason, including but not limited to having taped a key (eg. ctrl) down, Teams will register you as “available”, rather than “away”.

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        But it also balances that by not automatically changing your status on random even if it should. Including setting status to ‘busy’ when you’re on another meeting, showing you offline when you’re available and so on. On our team the availability status is pretty much useless and we rely on chat responses on what the current actual status might be.

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      It’s the only program I regularly need to End Task and relaunch. If I turn my camera off and back on more than 5-10 times, it just starts crashing. Very frequently, others can’t turn their camera on at all, but only in Teams. There’s constant confusion about which Teams client people are using since Classic, New, Android, iOS, and web all have their own different bugs and missing features.

      I think it works most consistently as a web app, but then you’re missing a boat load of features.

      Good luck! You’ll need it.

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        I think it works most consistently as a web app

        Looking at the browser’s developer console, you’ll notice that upon startup Teams makes so many goddamn requests (i.e. sends or receives data) that the goddamn Microsoft server tells it to shut up (i.e., sends a 429).

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      I think Teams as a chat and meeting app works just fine. But it tries to be too much. It’s the everything app from Microsoft: apart from chat and meeting you can browse sharepoint online, edit o365 documents including vision and project, integrate all other kinds of apps, it also shares your outlook calendar which you can directly edit, you can use it as a browser or adress book and I’m sure there is a ton more stuff you in Teams. But that also makes it bloated and slow and it regularly requires multiple updates within a day.

      It’s handy, but they should streamline it a bit more. One of the first things I advise is to open office documents in the desktop app and have the teams folders as a shortcut in explorer.

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      the performance is awfull. it updates all the time and after each update something breaks or some design change is made.

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      it’s not that bad. alao i’d rather have all job related stuff in one dedicated app than using multiple others i also use in prrivate. that way, i can just mute teams notifications, if i don’t want to be bothered, but still can have the app installed to reschedule meetings when i run late etc.

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      It’s slow and consumes a lot of resources. The UX is pretty bad, but not worse than other Microsoft products.

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      I have to use it on my work computer. The most irritating thing for me is that it refuses to remember its previous monitor/location, and it restarts itself all the damn time doing updates or crashing, and then it pops up in the middle of a random monitor.

      Otherwise, the functionality of it for communicating with coworkers is fine.

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    I don’t use teams, but is this like the opposite of HBO who has had a dozen names for the same app? Teams has a dozen apps all called Microsoft Teams? That would actually make sense considering Microsoft also calls everything copilot.

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      They indeed have several apps called Teams, 2 of them are incompatible by design: the home and the business version. Both of which probably have different active versions by now, all called Teams. And the user doesn’t know which one they have open.

      What’s broken with Microsoft changes over time and I haven’t used Teams in a good while, but at one point it was possible to send someone a teams meeting invite, they would download teams from the link in the mail and get the home version unbeknownst to them, leaving them unable to join. Microsoft would decide which version the user got based on their Windows account, regardless of the invite.

      One solution for this was to find a direct download link of the right version of Teams, which was posted on some trouble shooting page. But even with the right version, the user could still be automatically logged into that teams with the wrong account. For meetings outside the company, it was just easier to not use teams.