• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    2 days ago

    and then the coercion is simply you give me your number or i hurt you

    there is no way that you can make a system where you are able to validate your vote after the fact, and also is safe from coercion

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      1 day ago

      What’s stopping the abuser from demanding a photo of their filled out ballot? Idk why there’s a huge thread about this hypothetical. Are a certain point you can’t create policy defined by a tiny minority.

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        there are signs and staff everywhere ensuring that nobody takes photos of anything

        and even if you could, you can request another ballot paper

        Are a certain point you can’t create policy defined by a tiny minority.

        and that is why we run elections like we do: because this system is secure and you don’t need to validate your ballot paper… when you introduce machines like the US has, that exposes huge flaws that poke holes in a very robust system for little gain

        the tiny minority is validating your individual vote; not abuse and coercion

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          9 hours ago

          Except without self validation you potentially run into tallya being tweaked. Let’s follow the lawsuit, if it turns out tampering happened then what? Saying we can’t introduce measures because of rare domestic abuse issues is silly. Full stop. And I don’t really care to discuss this first with you. It’s starting to feel like you’re on a mission to AstroTurf.

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            5 hours ago

            no, it can’t… you validate that your personal submission was correct and then the whole point of the scrutineers etc is to make sure that the tallies are both anonymous and correct

            if the US conducted their elections like they should then there is no chance of tallies getting “tweaked” as you put it… this is a non-issue and the solution is not to introduce personal validation: it’s to fix the system

            Saying we can’t introduce measures because of rare domestic abuse issues is silly

            no, it’s literally the whole point of the voting system: to ensure everyone has a chance to vote freely

            It’s starting to feel like you’re on a mission to AstroTurf.

            hey mate i’m the one providing explanations and you’re the one just saying no constantly… anonymous ballots is the standard and agreed upon way of running free and fair elections across the entire globe… the system works, and there’s no reason to change it… elections are complex