I consider those foods the actual pre-diabetic junk food.
They’re even worse than that, really, since they’re not just pre-diabetic, but tend to be cancer-causing, arteriosclerosis-prone, and BP elevators, etc, as well. But just because white rice isn’t quite as disastrous as those other things is still no recommendation to actually eat the stuff regularly.
If I was asked, I’d recommend having it as an occasional treat, just like all other junk food. No extremism here.
Funny, it was several East Asians who brought it to my attention in the first place. They were bemoaning how so many of their older relatives had developed diabetes II, and strongly suspected white rice as a key culprit.
I’d have to digup stats but I think USA had higher diabetes due to everything being sugar, at least carbs like rice have to be digested and aren’t instant sugar bomb
Oh, for sure. The US diet is horrible IME. Loads of sugar, salt, fried / hydrogenated oils in ultra-processed food. Absolutely crazy.
Meanwhile, the problem with white rice is not that it has simple carbs, but that it’s little more than just starch, which has a fast, deleterious effect on blood glycemic levels. So for the cultures that eat white with almost every meal, it can be a real problem.
Looks like various studies show a link, but also wildly variable situation.
Such as south Asian population haveling diabetes correlation between even low rice intake while in didn’t affect Chinese population… But high rice consumption 70% or more of calories did.
Maybe Chinese genetics are different and tolerate it better.
Too many variables maybe.
There’s probably a link of exercise, like decades ago being poor and burning off your rice sugar by walking and toiling the land was fine, but sitting in front of Netflix probably sucks for rice consumption.
Okay!
But… I mean, Sven-- we can try to get after this stuff specifically, but please try to understand that in terms of research studies, I’m a complete idiot.
Absolutely, and I didn’t mean to imply white rice was healthy or anything of the sort, or that you had an extremist take. I just think the lower class in the US has much more to worry about in this regard. You can definitely balance your carb intake, and as long as you’re aware of the amount of carbs you’re consuming and want white rice, I say go for it. You do need carbs to survive, after all, although carbs with fiber are obviously better suited for that.
They’re even worse than that, really, since they’re not just pre-diabetic, but tend to be cancer-causing, arteriosclerosis-prone, and BP elevators, etc, as well. But just because white rice isn’t quite as disastrous as those other things is still no recommendation to actually eat the stuff regularly.
If I was asked, I’d recommend having it as an occasional treat, just like all other junk food. No extremism here.
You should tell Indians and Asians about just having rice as a treat :)
Funny, it was several East Asians who brought it to my attention in the first place. They were bemoaning how so many of their older relatives had developed diabetes II, and strongly suspected white rice as a key culprit.
I’d have to digup stats but I think USA had higher diabetes due to everything being sugar, at least carbs like rice have to be digested and aren’t instant sugar bomb
Oh, for sure. The US diet is horrible IME. Loads of sugar, salt, fried / hydrogenated oils in ultra-processed food. Absolutely crazy.
Meanwhile, the problem with white rice is not that it has simple carbs, but that it’s little more than just starch, which has a fast, deleterious effect on blood glycemic levels. So for the cultures that eat white with almost every meal, it can be a real problem.
Looks like various studies show a link, but also wildly variable situation.
Such as south Asian population haveling diabetes correlation between even low rice intake while in didn’t affect Chinese population… But high rice consumption 70% or more of calories did.
Maybe Chinese genetics are different and tolerate it better.
Too many variables maybe.
There’s probably a link of exercise, like decades ago being poor and burning off your rice sugar by walking and toiling the land was fine, but sitting in front of Netflix probably sucks for rice consumption.
Okay!
But… I mean, Sven-- we can try to get after this stuff specifically, but please try to understand that in terms of research studies, I’m a complete idiot.
Absolutely, and I didn’t mean to imply white rice was healthy or anything of the sort, or that you had an extremist take. I just think the lower class in the US has much more to worry about in this regard. You can definitely balance your carb intake, and as long as you’re aware of the amount of carbs you’re consuming and want white rice, I say go for it. You do need carbs to survive, after all, although carbs with fiber are obviously better suited for that.
If your only option is to eat white rice (and you don’t have something healthier, like hot oatmeal or other cheap grains & legumes), then sure.
You’re cool with me.