• fox2263@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Russia. They conscripted. They also ran out of them so had to empty prisons and use them. And when that wasn’t enough, conscripted again. And also enlist from overseas, offering lavish pay to Africans and Pakistanis et al for engineering and analytics jobs in the army but were actually sent to the front lines (so they’d die and not have to continue paying them).

    A marked difference from conscription in defence of the homeland wouldn’t you say?

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        1 day ago

        Thank you. Sometimes it feels like shouting into the wind!

        But yea, two things can indeed be true.

        When your country is under invasion and you have a legally mandated conscription … of course people will be scared and try to evade it.

        But they try and hand wave over the fact that Russia also does it and much worse, especially when they don’t need to because they’re fighting an offensive war (badly).

        America had the draft and so did Britain. Was that decried as abhorrent?

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          10 hours ago

          Two things can indeed be true. Like Russia invading Ukraine and Russia defending itself from NATO expansion in the bigger picture.

          Or like the fact that Ukrainian people are the biggest victim of this war and Ukrainian government is a Yankee proxy that caused this war.

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            8 hours ago

            Ah the NATO expansion argument.

            And yea Ukrainians are suffering, from Russia, who didn’t need to invade and genocide them.

            Ifs, buts and what about