Per the title. If an animal dies out in nature without any human involvement, shouldn’t it be considered vegan to harvest any of the useful parts from it (not nessicarily meat, think hide), since there was no human-caused suffering involved?

Similarly, is driving a car not vegan because of the roadkill issue?

Especially curious to hear a perspective from any practicing moral vegans.

Also: I am not vegan. That’s why I’m asking. I’m not planning on eating roadkill thank you. Just suggesting the existence of animal-based vegan leather.

  • Fleur_@aussie.zone
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    17 hours ago

    Being vegan means not consuming animal products. The reasons are irrelevant in the definition

    • PNW clouds@infosec.pub
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      12 hours ago

      The reasons are not irrelevant to the question being asked though. Vegan for health reasons? Sure the question is irrelevant if you get sick from any animal products. You aren’t going to eat them. Same way celiac avoids gluten.

      Vegan for ethical reasons? Then the question is very relevant. Is it ethical to have a pet cat? They are carnivores and will suffer and die on the wrong food. No pets at all would be most ethical. Are you concerned about mass farming of vegetables? If machinery is used, field mice and such are getting killed to harvest your vegan diet. Are you concerned about human trafficking of migrant workers or just farmed animals? If a bear kills a deer in your yard in Montana, eats half and fucks off, is it ethical for you to eat the rest? You had no hand in it’s death and suffering. You’ll have to do something with the carcass or you’ll have more predators in your yard. Are you only eating locally grown, in season fruits and vegetables, hand harvested by fairly paid workers?

      If ethics is the reason, it’s fully legitimate to debate and figure out where your personal line is drawn. We live in an imperfect world and there’s no perfect solution.