• Saapas@piefed.zip
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    There’s a lot of Russians who live(d) in Ukraine. Those of course are going to be welcomed in Russia. And there’s Ukrainians who support Russia over their own country, those are going to officially be well received too. So there’s really not big disconnect between the hateful attitudes and official proparanda.

    And sometimes they treat Ukrainians as “brothers” in the sense that they’re denying their whole identity as Ukrainians.

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      There’s a lot of Russians who live(d) in Ukraine

      So every Russian-speaking Ukrainian is just a Russian? It seems it’s you who is denying Ukrainian identity.

      What exactly constitutes a Ukrainian in your opinion? Is it just someone who hates Russia? If a Ukrainian speaks Russian as their native language and likes Russia do they cease to be Ukrainian?

      And sometimes they treat Ukrainians as “brothers” in the sense that they’re denying their whole identity as Ukrainians.

      So which is it? Do they hate Ukrainians or do they think they are one and the same?

      And if they are denying Ukrainian identity, why does Ukrainian language have officially protected status in the new Russian regions, why is it offered to be taught in schools, unlike Russian language in Ukraine which is heavily suppressed? Again, who is trying to erase who’s identity?

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        So every Russian-speaking Ukrainian is just a Russian?

        Nobody claimed this

        What exactly constitutes a Ukrainian in your opinion?

        I trust their own identity and view on this one.

        So which is it? Do they hate Ukrainians or do they think they are one and the same?

        Both happen. And denying one’s identity is a pretty hateful act.

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          I trust their own identity and view on this one.

          So you can’t even tell them apart, is what you’re saying.

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            I’m saying I’m not trying to define their identity for them. I’m happy to just go with this

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            I wouldn’t be able to tell Portuguese and Brazilian people apart either. I hope that doesn’t erase their identities.