I’ve been one of the people saying “we don’t need more users. we need quality over quantity” and i was wrong.

the way it’s going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

edit: source for the graph

  • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The reason why you haven’t seen these horrors is because to you they just look like others like you.

    Regardless if you agree with this post, for example, it’s propaganda, no different than the american apologists you can accurately identify, the bible thumpling catholics educating the uncivilized people that hadn’t heard the healing words of our lord and saviour jesus christ or those who believe everything should be privatized/converted into a free market due to orthodox economic doctrine.

    It is propaganda because it operates under the framework that someone who disagrees with a positive association must have not understood a specific sacred text or heard a sacred doctrine, or if they have they must be morally defficient, leaving no room for debate whatsoever.

    It’s extremely difficult to identify propaganda that caters to our own emotional needs and positive associations.

    One of the easiest ways to spot propaganda is the “no room for questioning, let alone disagreeing” aspect. In healthy societies with healthy ideologies there is a legitimate space for disagreement and debate. If there wasn’t, power would always remain in the same hands which is one of the aspects most criticize about both capitalism and communism.

    And believe it or not, there is more to the world than the right-left west-east dychotomies.

    If you look at history, similar ideologigal schisms have happened time and time again in times of shifts in the balance of power, such as when the printing press was invented and the the catholic - lutheran division that came from it. or during the decadence and later fall of the roman republic with the equestrials vs patricians (which originally shared ideological vision).

    These largescale violent power struggles always end up boiling down to “you’re either with us or against us” which in my opinion is the true poison.

    Feel free to disqualify or label me now and have a nice day.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Oh hey, it’s worth noting that that particular screengrab is taken out of context and was deliberately intended to make me appear that way. I even concede that one can disagree with Marx and Engels, my point was more against those who claim to agree with them but strongly disagree with the socialist market economy of China. I oppose anyone that tries to treat theory like gospel, that’s why I usually don’t reference theory directly unless it’s directly relevent like it was in this case.

      That’s the thing, people propagandize about us as well, like the MeanwhileOnGrad crowd that took that snippet out of context. You’re doing the same here, by extrapolating an entire behavior of me from a single, out-of-context snippet hosted in a Nazi bar. What’s important is that we actually pay attention to what others are saying, because everyone is guilty of thinking they are correct.

      • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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        Fair enough. Just grabbed one of the first images a search threw. Sorry if it was out of context or portrayed you unfairly. And of course people propagandize about you too. Anyone with a strong enough voice will get bad faith critiques thrown against them and many will be with political intent.

        I do think this is a fair example to exemplify the point I was trying to make, though. Your quote being out of context does not nullify its dychotomical political intent and makes my point stronger.

        Propaganda is hard to identify when you’re predisposed to believe it, it’s everywhere and people propagate it without even noticing.

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          Don’t let Cowbee propagandise you, that’s what he’s known for, even Tankies celebrate him for it.

          He doesn’t argue in good faith, either, don’t believe such nonsense. Just have a look at all the other community posts about his extremism, bigotry and hatred. He’s a Tankie full and through and one of the major reasons why Lemmy is destined to fail.

          For example, I humbly ask you to challenge Cowbee on his views of North Korea and Putin. You’ll find he is openly supportive of both.

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            I know @Cowbee@lemmy.ml doesn’t argue in good faith. You’re not arguing in good faith either. If you wanna internet argument fight the dude, I just pinged him for you, but before you do I suggest both of you consider the words of mustache man: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster.”

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              Honestly I don’t think there’s such a thing as good faith when it comes to political discussions on the internet. I’m not going to argue with him either, I don’t consider it worthy of my time.

              What’s good faith to you? To me, it’s admitting mistakes.

              • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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                To me, good faith is the genuine will to understand and/or convey ideas fairly and honestly.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          Sure, there are a lot of bad-faith critiques going around. I do think that your point using me as an example doesn’t really work if your example is out of context. The thing about propaganda is that anyone pushing a particular view is propagandizing, but that doesn’t mean it’s inherently misinformation. Identifying bias is important, as is developing media literacy to see where people are being less than truthful.