Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    11 hours ago

    You could always open feddit.org in a private window to check on them if you wanted. I checked recently and they seemed pretty unaware of it even happening. My guess is that they’ll be seething when they find out.

    • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      6 hours ago

      My guess is that they’ll be seething when they find out.

      From what I get, most of us are just relieved. The moderation team should definitely pop the champagne today, because there’s a lot less work to do from now on. 🍾

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        6 hours ago

        If that is the case it doesn’t make sense why Feddit had such a strong and hostile reaction to the existence and progress of the vote thread.

        • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          6 hours ago

          Most people didn’t even notice such a vote was happening until today, when it spilled over to lemmy.world.
          A discussion topic about it on Feddit was only created six hours ago and most people in there are like “Oh no! Anyway…”.

          Seems more like you want people to be furious. We can all wish for something, but that doesn’t mean it’ll actually happen.

          • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            5 hours ago

            Seems more like you want people to be furious.

            I’m just making the observation that a lot of feddit users went into the thread and were pissed off about it happening, plus the fact that I got harassed persistently throughout the course of the vote. Those aren’t things that happen when people aren’t pissed.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        Shouldn’t it be obvious I’m not? Read the post again:

        I know there is a lot of desire by people unhappy with the outcome to scapegoat me as personally responsible (and take out their anger on me personally) but this is a community effort and would’ve likely happened with or without me.

          • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            5 hours ago

            Wasn’t me who asked. I have been very strongly in favor of it though, guilty as charged. I will not shy away from that.

            Again. I know people wish to scapegoat me and blame me for this (up to and including harassment). Like I said this would’ve happened with or without me.

            • ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de
              link
              fedilink
              Deutsch
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              3 hours ago

              Okay, i believe you, but why are you promoting the defederation and then come to feddit.org to watch what happens there?

              You could always open feddit.org in a private window to check on them if you wanted. I checked recently and they seemed pretty unaware of it even happening.

              Edit: typo