Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    11 hours ago

    It causes zero restrictions if it gets too low, all that happens is admins see a red ! next to a username.

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      10 hours ago

      Why do you tankies always lie

      Every account has a Social Credit Score, you concede that.

      If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do.

      If your Social Credit Score is at -10 you cannot downvote, you can’t create new DMs and It flags your account automatically like this:

      PieFed uses a hard coded list to rank an instances’ defederation list for its quality. If an instance doesn’t defederate from what Rimu decided the instances stated quality goes down. Ironically none of the paedo instances are on Rimu’s list.

      • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.ml
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        Why do you tankies always lie

        Amazing, I never thought I would see the day Deceptichum was called a tankie, lmao.

        The comment you linked to is written by a “tankie”, by the way.

        • seawoowaes@lemmy.world
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          4 hours ago

          just going to copy this since you and cowbee are the same

          tankies are not a monolith there are lemmy tankies but not all look at how successful lemmy.world is after all piefed is tankie software because of the Social Credit Score and there are more piefed tankie shills

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        Why do you tankies always lie

        For full clarity, it was the “tankies” reporting on PieFed’s social credit score system, Deceptichum is attacking the “tankie” position. The comment you linked is from a “tankie.” In fact, it was because the communists started talking about PieFed’s social engineering that this drama even kicked off.

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          tankies are not a monolith there are lemmy tankies but not all look at how successful lemmy.world is after all piefed is tankie software because of the Social Credit Score and there are more piefed tankie shills

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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            4 hours ago

            PieFed is mainly developed by someone that hates communists to the point of regurgitating far-right conspiracy theories baked in racism. There aren’t really any communist shills for PieFed that I’ve seen. Communists aren’t a monolith, but PieFed has its social credit score system because it’s run by right-wingers.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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        I think piefed’s biggest proponents lie about this because it is one of the more unappealing aspects of piefed, and there isn’t really a way to sugarcoat it. Social credit score based on the votes of others is just a shitty way of running a social platform.

        Humans as social creatures already have innate fear of social rejection, and Karma/Social Credit systems on platforms that punish rejection just feed that dark pattern even more aggressively. It’s really not something I would elect to use after going through Reddit’s version of Karma. Especially because Piefed’s is ever more conditional (they can blacklist communities from counting towards your score positively but you still lose score points from those communities).