I am seeing this pattern a lot lately, whenever a person disagrees strongly or expresses conservative/right wing views, they are told to go back to reddit.
You can say ‘Don’t bring these bullshit views to the fediverse,’ or something of that sort. I am a reddit refugee myself, and part of the Reddit API exodus. Being told to go someplace I just left due to ethical reasons feels bad. So, I want to understand why it is being used as a retort. Is it really rude, or am I making a fuss out of nothing?
Edit 1: I am NOT defending conservative views, I think that they should not be given a platform in the fediverse. I am questioning how telling them to go back to reddit is a valid response.
Edit2 : Edited the the title to better represent my question.
You people like crying “nazi!” every time someone disagrees with you on a political issue so you can silence them.
The statement you replied to was specifically about Nazi punks a well documented issue? Are you fucking illiterate?
The problem is that people like you will lie about who is a nazi in order to silence them. This, in turn, devolves into a culture of “agree with me or leave.”
Lol, irony.
Who is people like me? Non whites? Who have I called a nazi? You replied to a post about nazi punks (a hyper well documented phenomenon) and how punks have to make it clear they are not welcome much like bars to avoid becoming nazi bars. What is your point? Nazis should be welcome? Because your spiel about mislabeling isn’t relevant.
Except it is. If people didn’t regularly do what I’m accusing them of, then you’d have a point.
So what’s your solution? Just accept all the Nazis for fear of it really being a mistake? That’s how you get a nazi bar.
Solution to what? I said his stance amounts to agree with him or leave and explained why.
A better question would be, what’s your problem?
You are taking all this time to run defense about how it’s actually bad to force Nazis out of spaces like the punk scene because some of them might just be mislabeled. I assumed if you were going to talk shit you’d at least have a solution? If it’s bad to force Nazis out of spaces then should they be allowed in all spaces or did you perhaps receive a divine revelation about how it’s actually possible to beat them in the marketplace of ideas or some such nonsense?
I made a 1-line comment and you people came out of the woodwork trying to make a defense.
I’m not saying it’s bad to force nazis out of spaces. My point is: Saying “nazis aren’t welcome” is akin to “agree with me or leave” in an environment where people call their opposition nazis just to have them censored. This is that environment.
It’s fine if you misunderstood what I said or why I said it. Hopefully I was able to clear things up.
Who’s you people ?
‘You people’ is typically defined by the attached action. ‘You people’ are the people who actually do that thing, whatever it is.
If you don’t do it, ‘you people’ is not you.
If you do do it, ‘you people’ is you.
The point is not about ‘who’, it’s an oppositional statement about the ‘what’, the action, and implies it’s bad, or more importantly that the speaker doesn’t approve.
Like: ‘You people, always with the child raping.’
If you don’t rape children, ‘you people’ isn’t you.
But also, the speaker is implying that child raping is bad, or something they don’t approve of, and something they don’t do.
I see. It makes more sense this way, cheers
The way it read initially was that anyone using the word nazi did so as a silencing manoeuvre. “You people” sounds derogatory to me, I don’t like it. It lumps people together and waves away individuality.