It gets my goat that people think it’s a good option. There are plenty of articles explaining some of the many issues with it, but a few are:

  1. It’s run by anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bros.
  2. It has ads right out of the box.
  3. It collected donations towards people who never signed up for them - then held them to ransom in exchange for the kind of information you should never share on the Internet.
  4. They’re a for-profit advertising company. “Privacy-centric” my elbow.
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    8 hours ago

    I’m surprised to read the whole thread and nobody mentioned that TorBrowser is the goat for daily anonymous browsing.

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      That you’re even suggesting this tells me that you don’t use tor regularly. Many clearnet sites dont want to be accessed through tor and will just block you. If you encounter any recaptchas thats basically a dead end. The time from opening the browser to having a fully loaded site is minutes.

      If you don’t plan on doing serious crimes and your not an opposition leader in a totalitarian state, tor is not a good default browser.

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      I thought people gave up on Tor years ago when it was revealed that it wasnt as anonymous as people expected due to the number of entry and exit nodes controlled by governments and spy agencies.

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        The NSA wasn’t able to break Tor fundamentally, even with spanning numerous exit nodes to intercept traffic, and high-scale traffic correlation between enter and exit nodes

        “We will never be able to de-anonymize all Tor users all the time.” It continues: “With manual analysis we can de-anonymize a very small fraction of Tor users,” and says the agency has had “no success de-anonymizing a user in response” to a specific request.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption

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          6 hours ago

          Do we trust a 12 year old article sourced from the government to be honest about current/past capabilities? Genuinely asking.

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            who and what is your threat model? as @macros@feddit.org pointed out this article was probably rather accurate.

            if you just want to browse anonymously - it is likely, that even the biggest tech corpos can’t de-anonymise you.

            if you do small time crime, like buying and selling contraband - likely law enforcement would try to catch you in the real world. you have more vertices and vulnerabilities there, different enforcement agencies are experienced exploiting these.

            if you paint a big ass target on your back and get the interest of the CIA or similar - you are probably fucked one way or the other. they may have the ability to de-anonymise you. but if you listen to people that did get caught or do the catching (e.g: darknet diaries), most of the times it is a small mistake. if you only ever play defence, that is enough to loose the game. but what are your options if your adversary is a national agency?

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            3 hours ago

            In this case I would. Its from the Snowden leaks and from the government for the government, never intended for our public eyes.

            Also if you don’t fully trust tor, just add another layer (e.g. VPN). If the government dissuades you from secure open infrastructure and gets you to use closed ones, they have won because companies can always be forced to comply. Algorithms on the other hand, can’t.