• dominic.borcea@piefed.social
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    11 days ago

    we haven’t really told China to fuck off when they are bashing our Philippine allies and basically threatening Taiwan which again we haven’t done really shit to support and tell them to fuck off

    “we” have done things in that regard though.
    but it actually depends on what you mean by telling China to “fuck off”. From the diplomatic point of view, the west & co has constantly voiced their opinion and put pressure on China in regards to its actions in the Philippines waters.

    Besides diplomacy, another way of telling China to “fuck off” is via military presence, which has also been increased. Philippines is becoming more central strategically. Two months ago you have allies like Australia making commitments of military investment in the Philippines. Japan is also getting more involved.

    People often get frustrated that these kind of measures seem “soft” because there’s no dramatic back and forth between the parties involved, but what else is there to be done? Attacking China’s ships and risking all of this to devolve in a massive war between the biggest powers of the planet resulting in a world-wide crisis? Nobody wants that.

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      10 days ago

      “we” have done things in that regard though.
      but it actually depends on what you mean by telling China to “fuck off”. From the diplomatic point of view, the west & co has constantly voiced their opinion and put pressure on China in regards to its actions in the Philippines waters.

      Nowhere near enough, china still rams Philippine ships on the daily, and continually is hostile to anything not Chinese in that area.

      Besides diplomacy, another way of telling China to “fuck off” is via military presence, which has also been increased. Philippines is becoming more central strategically. Two months ago you have allies like Australia making commitments of military investment in the Philippines. Japan is also getting more involved.

      Japan thankfully has stepped up, but it’s good to know that Australia has as well.

      People often get frustrated that these kind of measures seem “soft” because there’s no dramatic back and forth between the parties involved, but what else is there to be done? Attacking China’s ships and risking all of this to devolve in a massive war between the biggest powers of the planet resulting in a world-wide crisis? Nobody wants that.

      I’m not suggesting attacking them, more so giving them the same treatment as they give the Philippine ships. They’re our allies and I feel like we have left them to fend for themselves. Iran wasn’t a damn threat, but china is.