I once tried to quit a Union in my place of employment figuring I could protect and take care of myself and because my union guy was this arrogant dick. Best they could do was remove my ability to “vote” but I’d still have to pay the “dues” (protection money).
If you work in a union shop you benefit from the union contract, with wages, healthcare etc etc. Union workers earn roughly 10–15% more than similar non‑union workers on average. You working at that place, you are getting the benefits/wages the union fought for.
I know the theory of unions so save your breath. The best I got was various plastic shit from time to time, with the unions logo imprinted upon the cheap plastic shit. I still have that plastic union frisbee. Let’s let government control wage imbalance between corps and citizens through laws. We don’t need multiple middle-man rackets who take protection money when it is within ourselves to be a national “collective”. Don’t get me wrong. Like most things, unions started out with good intentions, and were desperately needed at one time, but now they are just little pockets of power using you for their voting blocks, with still no laws to protect workers and provide them a living wage. Rest in your comfort and mall purchases knowing you are better off than most of the rest of society who are not part of a union collective. Brotherhood indeed. I subscribe to the Musketeer motto, for the most part.
I am all for unions, but union jobs have a union for a fucking reason. I’d rather not work for an employer that is or was so hostile that the employees needed to rise up.
I’d rather not work for an employer that is or was so hostile that the employees needed to rise up
That sounds horrible. I have never seen nor heard about a situation like that (in a legal setting, illegal work conditions are another matter). I am also not from the USA (which I assume OP), so my perspective is perhaps different.
Joining a union is never forced where I live, and you can join a union without your work having an agreement with one (they will give legal aid, probably more, and try to improve all workers’ rights. A lot of benefits I enjoy today is because someone else took the fight before me).
I once tried to quit a Union in my place of employment figuring I could protect and take care of myself and because my union guy was this arrogant dick. Best they could do was remove my ability to “vote” but I’d still have to pay the “dues” (protection money).
Amazing thing about unions, everyone complains about leadership yet no one votes. As a Union man I have no sympathy.
How does that work? Are they saying you are forced to pay? Would they sue you if you just stopped paying?
Automatically deducted from my pay.
You wanted the perks of the union but didn’t want to pay the dues. Got it.
Perks?
If you work in a union shop you benefit from the union contract, with wages, healthcare etc etc. Union workers earn roughly 10–15% more than similar non‑union workers on average. You working at that place, you are getting the benefits/wages the union fought for.
I know the theory of unions so save your breath. The best I got was various plastic shit from time to time, with the unions logo imprinted upon the cheap plastic shit. I still have that plastic union frisbee. Let’s let government control wage imbalance between corps and citizens through laws. We don’t need multiple middle-man rackets who take protection money when it is within ourselves to be a national “collective”. Don’t get me wrong. Like most things, unions started out with good intentions, and were desperately needed at one time, but now they are just little pockets of power using you for their voting blocks, with still no laws to protect workers and provide them a living wage. Rest in your comfort and mall purchases knowing you are better off than most of the rest of society who are not part of a union collective. Brotherhood indeed. I subscribe to the Musketeer motto, for the most part.
I’m all for unions but they should not be forced.
I am all for unions, but union jobs have a union for a fucking reason. I’d rather not work for an employer that is or was so hostile that the employees needed to rise up.
That sounds horrible. I have never seen nor heard about a situation like that (in a legal setting, illegal work conditions are another matter). I am also not from the USA (which I assume OP), so my perspective is perhaps different.
Joining a union is never forced where I live, and you can join a union without your work having an agreement with one (they will give legal aid, probably more, and try to improve all workers’ rights. A lot of benefits I enjoy today is because someone else took the fight before me).