We have meshtastic, which is a mesh network for radio communications. How can we create something like that for the internet? And, ideally, how do we then host the fediverse platforms on it?

  • Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Do you mean through radio waves like APRS, 10m BBS, or HAMNET? Interent though peer to peer like Freenet (Hyphanet)? Or solely through Mesh like MeshBBS?

    I think the issue with running through Mesh is bandwith and range. Look how “limited” APRS or 10m BBS is (I know FCC band requirements and what not)

    • a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.caOP
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      12 hours ago

      Do you mean through radio waves like APRS, 10m BBS, or HAMNET? Interent though peer to peer like Freenet (Hyphanet)? Or solely through Mesh like MeshBBS?

      Well, I don’t know what the details would look like. I was hoping the good people of lemmy could help me out with that

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        12 hours ago

        I guess how would be the source of transmission be? All of those I listed have sort of a mesh/peer to peer community. The difference is inoperability.

        With 10m BBS i can get really far due to antenna and how large the radio wave is. On the flipside Meshtastic (which is 915 mhz US band and 400 in Euro I believe) has a tiny antenna, way less range,however you have less interference from other stations or space weather.

        With conventional internet (cable, dial up, satilite) we have peer to peer, which is close to mesh networking (freenet, torrants, file sharing sites, Zeronet).

        I’m only scratching the surface here.

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          11 hours ago

          On the flipside Meshtastic (which is 915 mhz US band and 400 in Euro I believe) has a tiny antenna, way less range,however you have less interference from other stations or space weather.

          Meshtastic seems to only support text messaging. Is that due to a limitation on the frequency it uses?

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            7 hours ago

            So in the US, mesh is on the ISM 902-928 mhz band and is unlicensed. It has both a power and bandwidth restriction (26mhz) compaired other mode to prevent harmful interference to other users.

            We can look at CB Single Sideband (SSB) that you can split the audio into two different “sides” and have operators transmiting on upper and lower without interfering with another.

            Tl;dr too nerdy: Techincally yes, you can use voice over mesh and a lot of amateur radio operators transmit voice over 900 into the giga bands sucessfully. All Meshtastic is, is a two way radio.

            I believe the reason it’s only text based is due to collision. Irrc last year’s Ham Fest Mesh crashed due to too many users on the “network”. It’s been patched since then and everyone uses (mid short? I cant remember atm) a different mode now.

          • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
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            10 hours ago

            Ish. Frequency dictates bandwidth (this is a very basic statement), and meshtastic is low bandwidth. This means you can still send any amount of data you like, just like in the old days of the internet, but the more there is, the longer it takes. So meshtastic is fine for text, but would require an amazing amount of buffering to be able to send video.