With as much traction this is getting in thirty minutes. I would love to eat drink or smoke pot with the lot of you potheads lol much love to you all keep it coming
Firstly you have 2 different categories: edibles and smoking. These are completely different processes with different chemistry and biology.
Since there is plenty of good info here, I would only say this:
The difference between different options in tge same category are just how fast and how efficient they are, that’s really it. The speed can make significant differences in feeling but usually all options can be used to get all of the same results, just some are better at one thing while others are better at another.
I would also want to add that many of these terms are regional and subculture-specific.
In the specific part of Germany I grew up in, a ‘joint’ was any smokable rolled cigarette-like object with cannabis in it. Nobody used any more specific words like ‘blunt’.
Then talking to people one town over, they looked at you as if you were from the moon if you called anything a ‘joint’ that didn’t have tobacco in it. To them, a ‘joint’ was exclusively a mix of cannabis and tobacco, and a ‘blunt’ was cannabis-only.
Then there’s people who add weed to pre-bought cigarettes, people who insist on using leaves, filters and no filters, tobacco or no tobacco, and so on. Most of these terms are really regional.
One other note that no one else has addressed:
There is a lung cancer risk due to inhaling smoke, or really any kind of small particulates. Burnt organic material is particularly bad, as you’re basically inhaling very fine carbon particles. The lung cancer risk from smoking marijuana seems to be lower than that from smoking tobacco, because tobacco smoke in particular contains many cancer-causing chemicals, but there is also comparatively little research on health risks related to cannabis smoke.
Regardless, the point is not that smoking weed is a particular cancer risk, but that inhaling any smoke or vapor is a cancer risk, and the risk is increased by volume. Firefighters have an increased risk of developing lung cancer due to repeated and extended exposure.
I’m not saying don’t smoke at all - after all, life should be lived. I am saying that you should understand the risks you’re taking, and that they can be reduced by moderation.
something I’ve done that helps is to take an edible then smoke till it hits, it vastly reduces how bad my throat feels… though I probably should just stop entirely but I don’t wanna
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First big difference is between smoking and consuming. Smoking cannabis has the THC and various other cannabinoids enter your blood through the lungs. It’s fast and direct, you’ll feel it in a matter of minutes and you start to feel normal again in an hour or two. Edibles go through a complex digestive process that not only takes longer, but also metabolizes the cannabinoids into slightly different forms. It’s a much longer and slower high, it takes about 30 minutes to really kick in and can last 8 hours.
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Blunts are traditionally made from a tobacco wrap or hollowed out cigar, creating a blend of cannabis and tobacco, much like a spliff (cannabis and tobacco mixed in a rolling paper). Today you can buy hemp wraps for tobacco-free blunts, which ends up being basically just a extra large joint.
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Pipes can be good for smoking a smaller amount quickly without needing to roll (or even knowing how to). It’s also a little less harsh on your throat, since a longer pipe isn’t going to be as hot at a joint as the burns shorter and shorter. I don’t think it’s too different from smoking a joint, but it may be more convenient. I’m not a big glass person in general.
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Bongs are efficient and smooth! They let you build up a large column of smoke and hit it in one big puff, filling your lungs with (ideally) cool and dense smoke. A joint is going to burn off a lot into the air as you pass it around or take breaks. A bong will arguably get you more out of the same amount of cannabis flower. It’s a powerful blast.
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Smoke and edibles are the biggest difference, in my opinion. It’s a totally different experience! I like them both… So I would warn against comparing doses 1:1… For example don’t think that 1g joint is the same as a 100 10mg THC edibles!!! That would not only be comparing the weight of the flower itself vs the active compound, it’s also comparing what are effectively 2 different processes and arguable 2 different “drugs.”
I entirely agree. Good list. One thing:
don’t think that 1g joint is the same as a 100 10mg THC edibles!!!
Weed has THC of around 10-35% THC so it is the same active Drug but you are comparing the wrong dose. So a 1 g joint would be more like 200mg (20% of 1000mg) THC.
Yeah. That makes sense! But my (layman’s) understanding is that when you take an edible the delta-9 THC metabolizes into 11-hydroxy THC, which has a stronger binding affinity on the same cannabinoid recepters. So it’s not quite so straightforward!
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Edibles vs smoking is an interesting difference. Smoking is immediate whereas eating is delayed. Edibles are much stronger as it takes time to metabolise, and are usually made specifically at higher doses that are controlled. Smoking may have up to certain percentage of cannabinoids but feelings will vary person to person. Also, men and women metabolize weed slightly different due to hormonal differences, as a common byproduct is estrogen. The way you smoke isn’t all that different in how it feels, it’s a matter of how much goes in quickly. Bongs and bubblers (water pipes) filter out some tar and plant matter giving you a cleaner smoke. Blunts vs joints are that joints use standard hemp paper whereas blunts typically use tobacco leaf.
Bongs and bubblers (water pipes) filter out some tar and plant matter giving you a cleaner smoke. Blunts vs joints are that joints use standard hemp paper whereas blunts typically use tobacco leaf.
Bongs also give you a lot of smoke at once and can make you caught very hard if you don’t know what are you doing. A joint small doses and is easier to measure how high you want to be
Yes, this. And also the effect with tobacco and cannabis together can vary from person to person. Not to mention spliffs being a thing. Using tobacco and cannabis ground together to be smoked in whatever kind of paper.
One will get you high, the rest will get you high
A joint and a pipe are very similar.
A bong is the same thing but you can smoke way more at once so it hits you harder and faster.
A blunt is basically a giant joint but it’s wrapped in tobacco paper so you get a little extra tobacco buzz alongside the weed.
The biggest difference with edibles is that because you eat them and they have to go through your digestive system (rather than through your lungs), there’s like a 45m delay before you feel anything. That means is really easy to eat some, think ‘i don’t feel anything, I should double up my dose’ and then get way too high.
That being said there is also evidence that when cannabis is processed through the digestive system there are enzymes that turn them into different cannabinoids, so you edibles probably do genuinely produce a slightly different high
All accurate, for completion I would also add:
Joints are just weed wrapped in a thin paper, smoked like a cigarette.
Bongs have water which cools the smoke down a bit and allows for bigger hits. You also inhale the smoke straight into your lungs as opposed to pulling it into your mouth and then inhaling like with a joint.
A spliff is a joint mixed with tobacco, gives you more of the tobacco buzz but hits much harsher than a blunt
Edibles can also last a lot longer than smoking (and obviously better for your lungs). Smoking gets everything in your system at once, lasting for up to an hour or two (at least for some people), while edibles start working while they’re being digested and continue working for a few hours at least.
In my experience, the high is just slightly different with each method, with the biggest difference being between smoking and eating edibles.
You already have some great answers in the thread, but i just want to add that if you or anyone else reading this is trying marijuana for the first time, do an edible, as low strength as you can get it, and see if you like it first before experimenting with the other ingestion methods.
Smoking it will be an unpleasant feeling and you will cough and sputter and your throat will get hella dry.
Vaping or using a bong will probably get you too high too quickly and you might have a bad trip.
For my first time I did a 2.5mg gummy and it was not quite enough. I could feel it working but it was too low dose to have an inebriating effect on me. Then I bumped it up to 5mg and it was great, gave me a nice head high without completely disabling me, i could still carry on a conversation and play videogames and such without any kind of impairment. I went up to 10mg and that was the sweet spot for feeling high for hours but not really being able to do much other than binge watch YouTube videos and eat junk food. I’m not really going to be productive or coherent in that state. 20mg gummy gave me a bad high both times that I tried it so that’s pretty much my limit.
Just be careful and give them time to kick in. The “these edibles ain’t shit” mentality is real and will get you into trouble fast. Can sometimes take 2+ hours to ramp up to the full effect and will last for 8-10 hours afterwards.
if it’s your first time a cart can be fine IF you set the voltage low on the battery and take a small hit, but I agree an edible is better
Edibles:
- tend to last longer (6+hrs vs ~3hrs for inhaled forms to wear off)
- are, generally, more potent in terms of effect (pain relief, mood elevation, and so on)
- give you more of a “body high” than a “head rush”, if that makes sense
- take a while to kick in (resist the urge calling out to you telling you to take another, you will regret that second brownie more than you could know)
Joint: weed wrapped in thin paper, smoked like a cigarette.
Blunt: A thick joint wrapped in tobacco leaves instead of paper.
Bong: Something that allows you to smoke weed and have the smoke pass through water to cool it before you inhale it. This allows you to take big rips and get very, very high, very quickly.
all in all, I consider any method of actually combusting weed to be inferior, to tell you the truth. Let me tell you about my friend the dry herb vaporizer, where you get your pot hot but not on fire, hot enough that a significant portion of the THC on your pot is able to be carried away by water vapor coming off the pot that you inhale. It tastes and smells nicer than weed smoke, it doesn’t leave behind that smell that clings to fabrics like weed smoke, and what of the rest of your THC? Well, if you save your already toasted pot in a baggie, and then grind that shit up real fine with a coffee grinder, you now have an easy to use brown powder that you can add to brownies or fudge or whatever else you want to make edibles. You get to enjoy the same pot twice.
I want to give a shoutout to a particular kind of dry herb vaporizer, the Dynavap, for being economical as fuck too. Gets you very high off of tiny amounts of weed, it’s genuinely great. Combined with being able to enjoy the same pot twice, I consider it a necessity in these fucked, economically uncertain times. There are downsides (it’s fiddly, it doesn’t produce very thick clouds if you use an induction heater instead of a lighter, you can fuck up and overheat it and then you’re smoking pot through a titanium tube[not pleasant], the screen is fragile if you’re not careful with it and irritating/not cheap to replace, etc.) but for stretching out your supply of drugs, accept no substitutes.
This is not being a put down or anything. You seem very knowledgable about this stuff. No offense or anything. I just got one question is there a way to test weed to see how much thc is in it? Because the Medicinal here everyone is saying the THC levels have dropped dramatically.
I mean, for you, at home? No, probably not, I don’t believe there is. In a lab with dedicated testing equipment, sure, that’s how they calculate THC levels you see advertised (or at least it’s how they should come up with that number).
There is no consistency and no standards. It’s actually a big problem. Customers don’t have any reliable way to know what kind of dose they’re getting. And even experienced users can get surprised.
There needs to be regulation on dosage and packaging. If marijuana was more dangerous, this would be killing people. Can you imagine ordering a drink and not knowing if it was beer or liquor until you started to feel the effect?
your example of beer vs liqueur is not a good one …
ordering a beer and getting non-alcoholic vs upto 8% would be more appropriate… not changing the product entirely.
I’ve never bought weed, and gotten hash or the same effects as hash… which would be more akin to your whatever.
what said, fuck regulations… it’s nature, no one is being hurt or killed… sometimes nature makes good fruit, sometimes it’s shit. GMO curated bullshit needs to stay the hell away from plants.
Well, edibles not only give a delayed effect that can last longer, but they also feel much different. I personally am not a fan of edibles as they give me anxiety where inhalation doesn’t. They feel more “intoxicating” in my experience. Others have pretty much nailed the difference between joints and blunts. Bowls (pipes) tend to waste less weed than joints and blunts and emit less smoke while not actively hitting it. Bongs have also been pretty accurately described by others, but a fat bong rip will knock you on your ass way more than the aforementioned three.
There are other methods as well. There’s dry herb vapes which basically “cook” the flower, releasing the compounds as vapor than smoke. It’s much less harsh on the lungs and protects some of the more delicate compounds responsible for flavor and the exact feel of different strains. Then there’s concentrates, which have a bunch of different methods of inhalation - pens and dabs are the main ones, with dabs having many different means of inhalation. Pens are the easiest to control the dose of, you can take little hits for just a light buzz or rip the hell out of em to get blasted quick. They tend to wear off quicker. Dabs are the strongest. Not really for beginners.
Apart from the instant versus delayed effects of smoke against edibles, it’s basically a lot like booze. Drunk is drunk, but there’s a difference between beer drunk, keg drunk, whiskey drunk, tequila drunk, etc.
Same thing.
Joint is when it’s too hot and too much with my low tolerance. I need a couple hits, so not my choice.
Pipe is hot smoke, so meh. Last resort option, for when you go somewhere and want it to fit into a pocket.
Bong is a sweet spot - not hot, and you can put however much you want.
For all the three, effect is the same, so only really depends on how much you smoke.
Edibles: for me the effect is slower and more even throughout the time. And if you make edibles yourself it’s kinda waste of product because some of the wffect is lost when you cook stuff (bake brownies, etc). But is the best option for non-smokers.
There is also an option of mixing tobacco and weed/hash with tobacco in a usual cigarette, it was a good way to not have a full joint of weed for me, but I quit smoking years ago and I don’t want to accidentally get back to it.
