- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
It became the only reliable source of information I had. People posted links with a minimal amount of commentary, picking and choosing the best content from other social media networks. They’re not doing it to “build a brand” because that’s not a thing in the Fediverse. It’s too disjointed to be a place to build a newsletter subscription base.
That’s why I’m advocating for people to switch to piefed and stop donating to the lemmy project which funds .ml.
Unfortunately the “attitude” system makes Piefed unusable.
Whats the “attitude” system?
PieFed keeps track of how many upvotes and downvotes you give, displays that on your profile and if you downvote too much it takes away your downvote button. That happened to me after a weekend of use. This is Lemmy. There’s a lot here that needs downvoting.
Are you downvoting to disagree or are you downvoting because it’s not contributing to the conversation?
This question shows the inherent flaw with putting any value beyond the function of voting, which is just list ranking.
Some instances would say down voting at all is inherently flawed, and it is healthier to accomplish ranking by upvoting and moderation alone.
As soon as it becomes infeasible to read every comment, downvoting to disagree creates echo chambers and encourages groupthink.
I find the same, though I, and I hope others, use it as an “I agree/this adds to the conversation” button and downvotes exclusively as a “this doesnt add to the conversation or is misinformation” button. I also appreciate seeing the down votes rather than an aggregated score.
Agree, this seems completely toxic and ripe for abuse.
Which is? I’m still missing something here.
Piefed is a derivative of Lemmy. So you’re not getting away from it.
And Lemmy is a derivative of Reddit so by your logic you haven’t escaped from it.
Lemmy isn’t compatible with Reddit. Piefed is literally implementing Lemmy’s data structures to specifically be compatible with Lemmy.
So since your stated goal is counter to reality, I have to wonder what your real intent is. I only see this drama as weakening Lemmy and Piefed by extension, not strengthening anything.
piefed is not a derivative. It’s not a fork. It’s a completely different project, in a very different programming language even.
neither does it implement specifically lemmy’s data structures. its not compatible with lemmy specifically. piefed implements activitypub, and is compatible with activitypub servers. activitypub is not lemmy.
PieFed is absolutely a “derivative” in terms of its DNA. It’s basically built as a love letter to Lemmy’s specific flavor of ActivityPub.
If you look at the raw JSON, PieFed isn’t just “using ActivityPub”, it’s specifically implementing the “Lemmy-isms” that make the Threadiverse work. It uses the same Group actor logic, the same Dislike activity extensions for downvoting, and even mirrors Lemmy’s API routes so you can use apps like Jerboa.
In a way, it’s like how a 3rd-party controller is a “derivative” of a PlayStation controller. The internals are completely different, but it’s shaped exactly that way so it can plug into the same console and work perfectly. PieFed chose to speak “Lemmy-ish” instead of just “ActivityPub-ish” to ensure it wasn’t an island.
I don’t think this is a problem. these data structures have become semi-standard,and they are working fibe, aren’t they? should they just change it for change’s sake, so that all clients and servers need to implement compatibility code? the problem with lemmy developers is not these standards they have created
Right.
Any disagreement must be state sponsored shill bots.
You said it not me.
I’m just happy to not support a transphobe and a massive hypocrite build their echo chamber that censors words they consider ‘bad.’
If they spend as much time developing the software as they spend policing thought it might be worth something.