• Lehmuusa@nord.pub
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    2 hours ago

    I did watch the first three minutes. Everything he shows is true, everything he explains as interpretation is just full of shit.

    “Why?”
    Well, for the same reason Soviet Union was doing the same to its colonies. Or why France was doing the same to its.

    Blargh, the guy’s eaten the hook with bait and floater.

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      54 minutes ago

      Well, for the same reason Soviet Union was doing the same to its colonies. Or why France was doing the same to its.

      Ok, can you tell the reason why? What is the thing that China wants that can only be achieved by mass murder and genocide of its working population?

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        51 minutes ago

        I don’t think there’s anything that can only be achieved by that.

        But generally in China the CCP is who decides about everything that happens in the country. Being religious is one of the things that are against the official template of how a person should be. Any religion is a problem, but a nation as religious as Uyghurs is considered a problem.

        And of course: Just look at the clocks. Any clock in the Uyghur areas is showing the local time, not Beijing time. Only clocks at railway stations, police stations and such show the Beijing time. The people there are far too independent for Beijing’s liking. Or yours.

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          the CCP is who decides about everything that happens in the country

          The CPC has 100 million members, it’s their job to represent the people. This is like saying “the government decides what happens”

          Any clock in the Uyghur areas is showing the local time, not Beijing time

          I spent 3 months in Xinjiang, I didn’t notice this, but can’t remember the last time I looked at a clock that wasn’t on a phone.

          Any religion is a problem

          You’re recycling anti-soviet propaganda. China isn’t atheist. For China, they officially support religion, but in practice recognize religious organizations as potential problems due to history, from the boxer rebellion to Fulong gong to ETIM terrorist attacks. They reconcile this by providing funding and official support to religious institutions, but exert pressure (I’m unclear how exactly) to promote less radical factions and don’t provide as many special privileges in areas where there’s risks of extremism, for example there’s religious schools in Xi’an, but not Urumqi. Personally I think the situation with private schools and hukou is a mess that needs to be addressed in a way that doesn’t ration education by income and zip code, but as an outsider, I don’t have the nuanced understanding how to do this in a way that doesn’t impinge on the rights of minorities and helps to preserve their culture, but the Chinese I’ve asked about this seem less concerned about losing aspects of their own unique cultures than having a common language and understanding, which IMO is a god-awful take, discarding the work of millennia of human development.

          nation as religious as Uyghurs

          How do you measure how religious a group of people are?

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      10 minutes ago

      The Soviet Union had no colonies. This was always projection on the part of colonial and neocolonial countries for the USSR’s unwavering support for national liberation struggles, which earned them incredible amounts of sanctions.

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        Do you think the current colonies of the Russia somehow appeared out of thin air? All of the Russia’s current territory has been Soviet territory in the past. All of the Russia’s colonies were of course also Soviet colonies.

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          Modern Russia had no colonies to inherit, it has no colonies. The Soviet Union liberated the Tsar’s colonies and thus modern Russia had none to inherit.