• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      It’s the plot of a number of Dickens novels.

      Incidentally, when Charles Dickens was 12 years old, his father was thrown into prison for debt. Charles was forced to leave school and work ten-hour days at a boot factory in order to help support his family.

      Colonial empires love imposing debt bondage on minority communities as a means of justifying wage slavery. Also as a form of collective punishment.

      Also incidentally… The United States is stealing Afghanistan’s money.

      Specifically, it has sequestered $3.5B of the $7B in the New York Federal Reserve branch owed to the Afghan Central Government, to be paid out to families of the 9/11 attacks. The remaining $3.5B is untouchable by the current government as well. And sanctions prevent Afghans from accessing global credit and trade, blocking them from doing business with neighboring Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbeckistan, and China.

      The bankruptcy and trade sanctions mean Afghans can’t import relief aid or supplies for capital improvements. And the article illustrated the end results.

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      I mean, the choice is, that or all the other children starve and die.

      It’s an impossible situation. Sophie’s choice, trolley problem, call it whatever.

      But I don’t think anything is gained by calling the parents making this decision barbarians. If they had options they likely would not be forced to choose in this manner. What is worth your criticism and admonishment is the governments who create these conditions, and the kind of people who see this suffering as an opportunity to buy a child wife. Totally justified calling those people barbarians.

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        I mean, the choice is, that or all the other children starve and die.

        that isn’t the choice. that’s still gonna happen, he’s just delaying it a bit by sacrificing a child, and I didn’t call anyone a barbarian. I said, “that’s barbarity.” if you misinterpreted that as me calling that man a barbarian, that’s on you.

        and what you should be doing - rather than making a Straw Man argument to admonish me for making an argument that I didn’t make - is to expend your energy to actually admonish the governments responsible for this family’s situation.

        which is what I commented upon in the first place when I called it ‘barbarity’.

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          why tf are you coming off so hostile at me? Jesusfuck man, go touch some grass. Acting like I’M the one, personally, who put these people in this impossible situation and attacking the hell out of me for nothing. You need some help.

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            You accused me of saying something I didn’t say and making an argument I didn’t make. I have a right to call you out for that.

            If you don’t like the consequences of your actions, I suggest that you don’t do it again.

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              you wrote a shitty thing, got called out for it, and now you’re playing victim and then going off on me for it? Holyshitballs, my dude, you have a complex.

              You wrote and implied that they’re barbarians. Choosing to use culturally charged language like “barbarity” to describe impoverished people of a 3rd world country. Might as well have just dogwhistled that they’re “savages”. That’s how it can be read. Might I suggest YOU don’t do that in the future. And maybe YOU need to log off, because YOU have problems. You don’t have the right to police a goddamn thing I say.

              If what you wrote can be misread, that’s YOUR fault for wording it badly.

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                you wrote a shitty thing, got called out for it, and now you’re playing victim and then going off on me for it? Holyshitballs, my dude, you have a complex.

                That didn’t happen. Any literate person can see that, and don’t make things worse by perpetuating such a transparent lie.

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                  This whole thing started because you chose to use such an antagonistic tone, you know. Civility costs infinitely less than this morality contest.