Conservatism to me means to conserve this world instead of destroying G-D’s creation and to uphold the principles of justice, meaning fair and speedy trials with due process and the assumption of innocence until proven guilty. It means to call out and confront injustice when we see it without moral selectivism; to work together as a unified country towards a common good. It means to go out and help your fellow man get back onto his feet when he is in need. That and religious values. Regardless, we all live in this universe and destroying it with pollutants, destroying ecosystems, smashing justice as if it means nothing at all, and being morally selectice against bad is intolerable. We already have caused unfathomable damage through deforestation, throwing mercury in the water that poisons the fish, and hunting entire species to extinction en masse. I am just one type of conservative though… there are many other types! I will list them later.
Now tell me, what do you think conservatism is? Let me know down below! Good faith answers only.
You’ve assumed a lot of things from very little. I think you should read your comment again and review what you know to be thinking vs feeling.
It’s not really very little, when it comes from someone who when to the extent of creating a community to defend conservatism, when conservatism is known to be at the core of fascism.
Tolerating ambiguity is exactly what allowed fascist parties to slowly be seen as valid, almost moderate.
I’m sorry, but if you’re ambiguous in your way to talk about lgbt+, and when called out on it you just try to justify it or to ignore it, it means that you’re more comfortable discriminating against them than you are comfortable about rephrasing a sentence, and that says a lot.
If you decide to wear the outfit of the KKK and you say that it’s not for the same reasons as the KKK, you’d better have a rock-solid speech.
You speak exactly like those you point your finger at. Fascism can’t exist without Anarchism. Conservatism can’t exist without Liberalism. They can’t exist without You.
Like I’ve mentioned in my comment in this thread, I am trans. These days I’m more offended by cis people getting offended and trying to ‘defend’ trans rights than I am of anything else. Most of y’all are just virtue signalling and/or using us as an excuse to push your own agendas and your own hatred of those who perceive things differently. Our blood is just as much on your hands as it is on theirs and until you realize that, blood will keep spilling.
I could easily choose to be offended by the wording, assume the worst of their entire being and never come back. If I’m right, I’m just leaving weeds to spread freely, if I’m wrong, I’m casting my own negativity on innocent people. What you think of people is reflected back upon you. You judge them negatively, they judge you negatively. Simple as.
I want it to be clear that I am not saying, nor do I think that you are wrong in this case. I simply do not know, but I care to find out. What I am actually saying is that what you see in others is more of an indication of what you currently are, than what they ultimately are.
Your whole premise for this is that this person went out of their way to create a conservative community. Well, let’s say you were actually someone with more conservative values, not a fascist, just a more conservative person.
Remember what things were before we were all pushed towards extremism? What? Did you think you were immune to that? Think harder lol.
Now, if you look at how fucking insane and just basically astroturfed and puppeteered by troll farms and bots running on LLMs all conservative spaces are online, would you not want a more sane place?
Now think about how ‘our’ spaces look to the people who fall more on the right of the ‘political spectrum’. Do you really think that leftist spaces do not suffer the same type of manipulation by the opposite end of the spectrum? Do you really think that some people are just ‘evil’ and incompatible with life on Earth? Do you think you were given some kind of knowledge at birth that just made you better or more right than them?
There is an extreme right and there is an extreme left and they are equals. The extreme left would gladly do to the right, what they believe the extreme right would do to the left and that perpetuates a cycle that needs to be broken somewhere before it breaks by itself in a catastrophic fashion.
Isn’t it funny that there is a part of me that feels like I’m gonna get shit on for trying to remain neutral about someones intentions before they show them to me?
Sorry, non-sequitur, but that is an ADORABLE plushie to the left of your computer monitor! Where did you get it?
The little raccoon thing? It was at some dollar store. Sadly that is an older picture of my bag and it has lost its legs.
I did not know the Dollar Store sold that. Huh… the more you know I guess!
Damn. That sounds very bot-like. Must be your accent.
Lol. I am not a bot. I do tend to type formally tho.
AH-HAH! Exactly what a bot would say!
Conservatism is at the core of Fascism ≠ Conservatism is always Fascism. Two things can be true at the same time. Nonetheless, Fascism is banned here.
Agreed. It is why I made the rules so explicit as to not tolerate ambiguity.
Did I do that? I noticed people have mention that to me multiple times. I do not get it? Sorry… English is not my native language, so I sometimes miss things. My native language is ‘עברית’ (Ivris). I know you said you are ‘done even giving the benefit of the doubt’, but I legitimately do not know and do not mean malintent. What do you suggest I change the wording to?
The KKK is a different thing entirely and I do not and will not support or even tolerate a racial-Christo supremacist hate-group.
Edited to fix typo as I accidentally left off ‘ת’, lol.