For my part, the short and stupid answer is that AI destroys the environment, screws over the working class on so many more levels than just taking jobs away and risks making people intellectually lazy and even more inept at social interactions.

There is a more indepth walk through of these reasons, but I don’t really have the energy to write a novel that nobody is gonna read anyway.

Fyi: I used to be open minded when it came out because I don’t like passing judgement before knowing a bit more about a controversial subject. The deathnail for me was when I heard of the costs to the environment and how unsustainable AI is right now. We already have enough shit in this world that’s destroying us. Why on earth are we adding one more?

I detest that a pretty limited and inefficient technology became a functional deity. Whatever cost is paid upfront to serve it is just, whatever resource it needs is reserved, whatever it produces should be spread uncritically low and high. Like all copium for the masses, it becomes a prosthetic device people become dependent on in their lives, and whatever I choose it or not, it becomes projected onto me too, making the products and aftermath of GenAI boom a part of my daily live and a tax I now pay.

From a power/economics perspective, it’s a cover for the biggest companies and most punchable CEOs to take our shared knowledge, skills and means of compute from us and sell them back to us as a subscription, while pissing in the community well they just eroded.

As a consumer I play around with local machine learning-based tech to OCR pages, create transcripts, extrapolate images and frames in video. I haven’t found a usecase for rented GenAI in my workflow but I usually don’t cringe at people using it as long as they don’t take pride in using it (and it happens a lot, oooff). I despise rich companies and people masturbating around the topic, firing people in droves, enshitifying everyithing and taking ever more power.

Because I and some associates spend years traveling, collecting , and documenting some very specific information on an uncommon family of animals, their care in aquaria, and ecological curiosities. We had a website which hosted all the documented info, a small but active community of people with this niche interest. A few minor ads and affiliate links kept the site running, and allowed our few naturalists to go to more places and document rarer species. Now LLMs have stolen all our content and google shows all of our information in its AI searches as if it owns it and never links the information to the community that lovingly curated it. Our website had to be taken offline forever because all our traffic is just scrapers.

So please, tell me how AI stealing everything we worked hard on for years and selling it to you is considered a good thing?

It’s because AI in the form of LLMs is a piece of SHIT BS lies generator FUCKING GODDAMN copyright theft! SHITTY ASS LIAR CLANKER dumb bot

Because we are a bunch of people that tend to at least try to keep ourselves informed.

There’s more negative consequences of AI than there are positive, at least from my perspective.

Capitalism

Ai:

• ruins the planet by polution
• is used to influence political discourse, erase facts and history.
• is a tool brought to you by people who at the very least don’t want the masses to be free (look up palantir owner)
• is being pushed with the end goals to have a tool of mass surveillance and control.
• makes people abandon their ability to think critically (or in general really)
• is used to violate copyrights by it’s very design. If you think artists have been undervalued so far just you wait. They don’t want creative people anymore.

Take your pick, it’s war and you’re in it.

This whole thread is a great honeypot for my ‘AI Techbro’ user tag!

'cause i’m a hater and being a hater RULES have you tried it? much better than prompting a hundred times for something that looks or reads likes shit

I mean, take your pick. This is a place where a lot of us…

• are leftists who disagree with extractive, anti-human economic systems
• left Reddit because they insisted on controlling how people could connect to each others ideas
• like the open collaboration of open source, which is getting wrecked by AI
• like open access communities like wikipedia, which are also getting undermined by AI
• dislike copyright law, which is being selectively ignored here because the people violating it are rich (on paper)
• are marginalized people, who tend to be disproportionately effected by AI decision-making

It is the dot com bubble all over again, we all know the internet completely transformed the world but during that hyperphase anything with .com was getting money tossed at it.

We are in the same phase with AI. It will likely completely transform tech and medicine and a number of other fields. However 90% of what is being pushed right now is not good uses for it. They are masking the real costs for it. We are likely going to end up with an oversupply of datacenters just like all the unused dark fibre we had in the .com age. It will eventually transform into more useful things but “most” not “all” of it is hype right now.

The reasons why so many people hate it. Are lengthy.

A big one is we see jobs already being eliminated. And people like to live in this fantasyland that oh there’ll be new jobs created. But anybody who has studied history, realizes that that’s not going to happen in this case.

For example, when we switched from horse and buggy to motorized vehicles,. The people built the buggies they could be cross trained to build the vehicles. Jobs were created.

When we switched from the mechanical typewriter to the electronic typewriter that was easy cross train. When we moved away from the electronic typewriter to a computer, there were jobs created.

Here’s the problem that we run into. Let’s just look at accounting. Many jobs in the accounting field can be done by a properly trained AI system. Most data entry jobs can be done by AI. Many programming jobs are being handed off to AI. You were seeing this across all industries. Whereare the jobs going to be actually created at?

There are some data entry jobs to program AI. But those are minimum wage jobs at best.

As AI becomes better and better, they will be able to take more and more jobs.

We are already seeing AI being used to create music. There goes a lot of musicians jobs. There a goes a lot of songwriting jobs.

This is becoming a very large problem. Because you will still have the same number of people looking for work, but you’ll have less jobs. That means the pay for said jobs will drop drastically. Supply and demand.

The people who truly believe there will be magically new jobs created as far as I’m concerned or absolutely delusional.

Another big problem is it limits human interaction. I know there’s a lot of people that don’t want to talk to anybody, but here’s the reality. Humans are social creatures. As we become More and more isolated, It becomes harder for us to sympathize and empathize with other people. That makes it easier to create divisions between people. Trust me, the governments will absolutely use that to their benefit.

I can’t answer for anyone else but I hate it because it makes us stupider, it degrades human knowledge as a whole, it contributes to climate change and is helping to dissolve culture by isolating us into fewer and fewer shared spaces

There are some basic responsibilities they need to meet like not violating copyright and licensing on source material creating a double standard where corp slop can pirate without charges but individuals can’t and building and running data centers that aren’t in conflict with the community they are running in. They also should have warnings about anthropomorphizing language models that don’t think or reason but I’d settle for the first two to start.

As usual it’s not the technology that’s the problem, it’s the dumbass way it’s implemented in a profit motive

Because the endgame of the way we are developing the technology is not Star Trek but I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

It’s an existential threat, a Great Filter.