• OilyArena@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    So you’re a Social Democrat, got it. Those are pretty out of fashion over here and gave up pretending wanting to achieve Socialism long ago. Sorry, but I don’t really think that what you’re talking about is Socialism, it’s liberal reformism.

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      20 hours ago

      I want Communism for Land, Socialism for Necessities, and Capitalism for Luxuries.

      I don’t think that puts me into any of the existing labels to be quite honest.

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        17 hours ago

        It makes you someone who doesn’t understand what those terms mean, so a modern liberal.

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          6 hours ago

          It makes me someone who treats them as economic systems, usually referred to as an economist.

          Have fun being morally outraged by my proposal, but at least it’s grounded in reality. Humans are not capable of making or maintaining a full Marxist communist state. Our desires are limitless, reality is finite.

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            Socialism is a mode of production and distribution where the working classes control the state, and public ownership is the principal (rising and dominant) aspect of the economy. Communism is a post-socialist mode of production and distribution where the entire economy is collectivized and planned, and there is no longer a state, class, or money. See Cheng Enfu’s diagram:

            You have a horrible understanding of socialism, communism, and social democracy, that frankly makes things more confusing.

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              3 hours ago

              You have a horrible understanding of reality.

              If two people get together and put all of their earnings into a pot together, then each take out what they need. That’s a type of communism. It’s also usually called a family.

              Marxism/Leninism are specific type of communism as well, that reach well into the political space as well as the economic.

              What you’re trying to do right now, imposing your own singular view of what communism can be, is the same as saying Catholicism is the only type of Christianity just because it’s the most well known.

              There’s a whole wikipedia article detailing dozens of variations of Communism, from Marxism to variations on Marxism, to variations independent of Marxism. Just because he did a lot of thinking on the whole thing doesn’t mean he’s the only one who gets to define the word.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_ideologies

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                2 hours ago

                You seem like you’re suffering from a bad case of Dunning-Kruger. You’ve been explained very basic terms multiple times, but you keep repeating your completely wrong understanding undeterred, with brazen authority.