Let me start by saying that I am in no way trying to be racist or anti-Semitic. I truly do not understand the mental gymnastics that these people are doing. I’ve been wondering for quite a while is how can America have so many white christian nationalists, and people who are completely freaking racist about EVERYONE not white christians, but all the while they seem to support Israel which is a Jewish state. Which goes completely against the white christian nationalist movement. How do these people reconciliate those two things? Are they just complete hypocrites in their beliefs?

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    It’s not contradictory at all. I’m repeating other answers, but I will add some context:

    Ethno states are not necessarily against the existence of other ethno states. What better for a white american than a place just for the others?

    In fact, nazi germany allowed some german Jews to immigrate to the british palestine with some of their assets (vs just fleeing): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

    (I should mention that Hitler didn’t support the state, so it’s not a 1-to-1, and libyan Jews were sent back to europe to be killed by the Italians )

    A group of white americans established the American Colonization Society to encourage Black americans to resettle in what would become Liberia. Lincoln also sent freed Black americans to Haiti.

    The other reason is the christian belief that the Rapture (and return of christ) cannot occur until the Jewish people return to isreal. It’s called christian zionism. Even as a child in the 90s in a roman catholic church we hear about how the jewish people were favored by god and we must support israel. I think the context of that was fundraising for settlement orgs.

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      The other reason is the christian belief that the Rapture (and return of christ) cannot occur until the Jewish people return to isreal. It’s called christian zionism. Even as a child in the 90s in a roman catholic church we hear about how the jewish people were favored by god and we must support israel. I think the context of that was fundraising for settlement orgs.

      Just wanted to expand on this. According to Revelation, in the end times 125,000 Jews will convert to Christianity and the rest will be “destroyed”. No more Jews. So Jesus is the answer… to the Jewish question.

      Anyway, the Zionist/ Christian nationalist alliance is better explained by antisemitism than by Christian love, friendship, or solidarity.

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      Thank you for your response. I was raised “Christian (Methodist really but in the first Christian Church)” until I was about 8 or 9, but my grandfather was an atheist. So I grew up with a very different idea of what churches should and should not be able to tell people what to do

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        Methodists are chill, they are like, less hippie Unitarians.

        I dated a moderate Catholic for years, she HATED Unitarians and Methodists. She thought both of them couldn’t really believe in God, because you know the point of belief is SUFFERING. On the flip side, she also HATED fundamentalists protestants and catholic conservatives.

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          she HATED

          I am baffled how “Love your neighbor” has the small print below that says “as long as they are exactly like you, otherwise stone them to death”.

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            i mean, that’s gospel for everyone. including the other religions and the atheist. everyone hates everyone who is different than them and thinks they should be exterminated.