I’ve considered learning Dvorak and switching my keyboard over, but the two people I know that did that have recommended not doing it. Mostly it’s because nobody else uses it, so switching back and forth can be a pain.
I’ve been using it for 20+ years so it’s unlikely I’ll ever change now. Can’t say switching back and forth is too much of a pain, it’s supported by virtually all desktop environments and switching back and forth is usually just a keyboard shortcut once set up (in GNOME, which I use, it’s super+space, though you can potentially annoy other people by leaving it in Dvorak).
I’d say some valid reasons not to switch are: common shortcuts are sometimes not so convenient (Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V both require two hands), can be worked around with customised hotkeys; relearning takes time, if you’re already fluent in QWERTY it might not be worth the cost and personally I think speed benefits are overrated; also one-thumb typing on touchscreens tends to not be that efficient on Dvorak (I use Thumb-Key on my phone, though my phone is very much secondary for me). That said, I don’t regret switching, and if you didn’t learn to touch-type properly on QWERTY you may as well start fresh on Dvorak.
I think the switching is mostly when using someone else’s computer. Moreso in an office setting when helping each other out. It’s not super frequent, but it does happen. My bottleneck also isn’t typing speed, so it’s not really worth it to spend the effort to switch.
I forced myself to learn colemak because I couldn’t learn proper touch typing (relearning bad habits is rough).
Now I mostly type in standard qwerty because my work demands me to use different hardware. The good thing is once I learned to touch type colemak it was easier to learn to touch type in qwerty. So now I have both at 100wpm+.
I tried Colemak, but it was too confusing switching back and forth for work. I could probably manage it now, but QWERTY really is fine for my purposes. What I would like to learn–but only if I could use it everywhere–is VIM.
For my phone, I use Thumbkey–9 letter buttons that each have 1 value if you push on it and 8 others if you want to slide, so that’s 81 keys quickly available with minimal futzing about finger placement and no depending on a computer to guess what you mean.
If an editor has plugins then there is more than likely a vim extension for it. I know VS Code has one, and it has worked consistently for me. I think someone also made a Firefox extension for vim like navigation if you want to really go hard.
Thanks, but I think unless I can use it everywhere, it will be more annoying having these shortcuts burned into my brain that I can’t use… But maybe I’ll put it onto my list of “new ways to write text” after I learn Gregg shorthand.
Been touch typing Dvorak nearly thirty years.
Only twenty for me, but yeah, can only touch-type in Dvorak.
Another Dvorak user here, wouldn’t be surprised if there are quite a few of us on Lemmy.
That means I can type without looking at the keyboard since my keyboard isn’t labelled in Dvorak.
I’ve considered learning Dvorak and switching my keyboard over, but the two people I know that did that have recommended not doing it. Mostly it’s because nobody else uses it, so switching back and forth can be a pain.
I’ve been using it for 20+ years so it’s unlikely I’ll ever change now. Can’t say switching back and forth is too much of a pain, it’s supported by virtually all desktop environments and switching back and forth is usually just a keyboard shortcut once set up (in GNOME, which I use, it’s super+space, though you can potentially annoy other people by leaving it in Dvorak).
I’d say some valid reasons not to switch are: common shortcuts are sometimes not so convenient (Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V both require two hands), can be worked around with customised hotkeys; relearning takes time, if you’re already fluent in QWERTY it might not be worth the cost and personally I think speed benefits are overrated; also one-thumb typing on touchscreens tends to not be that efficient on Dvorak (I use Thumb-Key on my phone, though my phone is very much secondary for me). That said, I don’t regret switching, and if you didn’t learn to touch-type properly on QWERTY you may as well start fresh on Dvorak.
I think the switching is mostly when using someone else’s computer. Moreso in an office setting when helping each other out. It’s not super frequent, but it does happen. My bottleneck also isn’t typing speed, so it’s not really worth it to spend the effort to switch.
I forced myself to learn colemak because I couldn’t learn proper touch typing (relearning bad habits is rough).
Now I mostly type in standard qwerty because my work demands me to use different hardware. The good thing is once I learned to touch type colemak it was easier to learn to touch type in qwerty. So now I have both at 100wpm+.
@anothermember @_deleted_ looked up dvorak keyboard. It’s easier to learn and use than the qwerty keyboard we’re used to.
I wouldn’t necessarily say easier, but more ergonomic.
I tried Colemak, but it was too confusing switching back and forth for work. I could probably manage it now, but QWERTY really is fine for my purposes. What I would like to learn–but only if I could use it everywhere–is VIM.
For my phone, I use Thumbkey–9 letter buttons that each have 1 value if you push on it and 8 others if you want to slide, so that’s 81 keys quickly available with minimal futzing about finger placement and no depending on a computer to guess what you mean.
If an editor has plugins then there is more than likely a vim extension for it. I know VS Code has one, and it has worked consistently for me. I think someone also made a Firefox extension for vim like navigation if you want to really go hard.
Thanks, but I think unless I can use it everywhere, it will be more annoying having these shortcuts burned into my brain that I can’t use… But maybe I’ll put it onto my list of “new ways to write text” after I learn Gregg shorthand.
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