• PornPlane@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 months ago

    Is it deadnaming when you are referring to a trans person at a time when they were their assigned at birth gender and name?

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      8 months ago

      My guess is yes but I’m not sure. The reason why I say that is Elliott’s older work is now listed as Elliot and not their old name.

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        8 months ago

        Yes but Elliot page wasn’t in this movie. Ellen Page was. If he makes a movie now of course it’s Elliott page but I think it’s weird to go back in time and erase things.

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          8 months ago

          Hi, trans person here. I often describe my life before beginning to transition as an act or a job I had to perform, but wasn’t really me. Anything I did in my old role was done by me, not the character.

          In Elliot’s case, he was a dude playing a dudette, dressed up as another dudette. Whatever performance was happening on or off camera doesn’t ultimately change who the person actually is.

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            8 months ago

            Last time I had to actually use it in conversation I said “Elliott page is in it back when he was Ellen Page”

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              8 months ago

              That’s very logical and easy to understand. Personally I wouldn’t be upset if I was Elliott, but there are many trans people who have a strong aversion to hearing their old name. Again, comes down to the audience, but a lot of folks would say something like, “before he transitioned”, rather than mentioning the old name.

              Hope I don’t sound too nitpicky, just wanted to say it in case it helps.