Wow, I I’ve heard of moving the goal posts but that’s moving to a whole new field lol.
Let’s get a refresher on what you said
Get literally any soldier who was deployed to iraq or afghanistan drunk and they’ll tell you about unpunished warcrimes they witnessed or participated in.
Yeah that’s not at all the same.
Not every single soldier witnessed or participated in that.
You are desperately reaching instead of just saying you were wrong. Come on man, this is weak.
Making sure I get fed? What exactly has the military done to secure food security? You’re complaining about hyperbole and make dumbass claims like that lol
Shoot, my bad. I forgot how easily confused you get. They keep the soldiers fed. I thought that was obvious from context, but I guess back to spoon feeding.
They’re not baseless assumptions either. I’m sure your chud friends have seen plenty of horrific shit and they just don’t consider it bad, nor war crimes.
They’re not baseless? You’re assuming you know my friends better than I do. Friends who were in the military with me, a life you clearly don’t understand or have ever experienced. But you claim with confidence to know what they consider bad? This is baseless by definition. You’re whole stance is based on assumptions.
But prove me wrong, my good friend Sgt Holt, what did he see that was a war crime? I’m curious since you seem to know so well.
I know people that have sniped unarmed civilians in Afghanistan and they considered it a way to alleviate boredom.
Lol first off I call bullshit. A sniper is not setting up a nest then giving away and drawing attention to that nest for no reason. That’s how you eat an RPG. Your basic lack of military knowledge is making your lies transparent AF lol.
There’s a couple people in my state that even got convicted of war crimes
Oh shit! A couple people got convicted of war crimes so every single soldier ever has committed war crimes. You are delusional and not living in reality guy. Do you apply this logic to every group? Because I’m sure you’re part of a group that has had members of that group so horrible things.
What a smart person would do is realize that each person is an individual and not judge an entire, massive group of people based on the actions of some people in that group.
You said literally any soldier, so maybe say what you mean instead of being hyperbolic and then blaming people for thinking you mean what you actually said. You choose those words. You didn’t even say, “ask any soldier” you really wanted to classify it with “ask literally any soldier”. So if that’s not what you meant, why did you make that absurd claim? I don’t rely on people making assumptions when I present a point. That is wild…
And even then, I know people do have been in action and not witnessed any war crimes. I’ve known lots of these people, across a large sample. You’re in your room making baseless assumptions.
Yah, every guy making sure you get fed really condones war crimes. You lack any sense of nuance or actual understanding.
You’re just throwing out grand, sweeping claims…
So just insults. No counter point, no logic. Just yelling that I’m wrong and you’re right? How convincing.
If you had any logic to stand on you’d present it. But you don’t. And you’ll find every excuse not to provide any. You know you’re wrong, you’re just too proud to admit it my guy.
… How dishonest.
Learning from history is one thing. Holding people accountable for the actions of others, from before they were even born, is stupid.
But you knew that. You’re just trolling or hate the military too much to think clearly.
But let’s follow your logic. Let’s take actions of people in the past and apply them now. So, given the holocaust I’m assuming you think all present day Germans hate Jews and want them to die? I mean we need to learn from the past right? Just because it’s not happening here and now you can’t ignore it. Right?
Yes, but no one serving then is serving now. Leadership has cycled many times. I mean, how far do you take this? Can you use events from 200 years ago to claim how a group thinks?
Also culture has changed, the type of people in the service has changed, so much has changed in 50 years. This is ignoring all nuance.
I served in the military. You don’t seem to know much about it.
Literally any soldier? Really? The cooks? The guy at the mechanic shop? Literally any soldier?
Not everyone is going out on patrol. Not every soldier is committing a war crime. I’ve known dozens of people who went over seas and didn’t even see a hint of action. WTF is with these wild assumptions being passed as facts.
Does it happen, for fucking sure. But not at the level you seem to be implying. Not at all. People let their emotions rule over reason way too much.
Or the fact that the government isn’t a reliable source anymore.
The military has done some horrible stuff but going back 50+ years to prove how they feel today seems a stretch.
Just gunna gloss over everything I said huh, ignoring how this convo started, sure. The irony is you only prove my point that you want to just look at someone in the past to blame instead of holding the current admin accountable for actions they’ve taken. You’re simping for the current president who’s best friends with the richest guy on earth, acting like he’s helpless.
I mean if you want to ignore nuance and any role Trump had to play in it sure, it’s all Biden’s fault. I guess he was just so helpless. He didn’t want to mass deport people or deploy the military, Biden made him. He didn’t want DOGE to create massive debt and disrupt essential services, Biden made him. I sure hope at some point in his 4 years he’s able to take control of the country from Biden. For being such a strong, big, tough guy he sure seems like some old ex president can easily undermine everything he wants to do while Trump has his entire party behind him, backed by the richest man in the world lol. What a victim, there’s nothing he can do! Won’t someone please think of poor Trump!
Trump’s actions caused these riots. Not Biden. Trump deployed the military there. Not Biden. Are you having a stroke? Were you asleep for the last 6 months? I mean all this info is out there… Or is this one of those things like when the economy is doing good it’s Trump’s economy, but when it’s bad it’s Biden’s economy. That way you don’t have to take any responsibility and still get the credit.
However, let me explain why you make no sense and clearly have a loose grasp of basic logic. Based on your logic everything bad that happened during Biden’s term was the same right? It’s not Bidens fault, it’s Trumps. You don’t think that the idea of blaming the president directly before Biden for creating the conditions for Biden is insane, right? So anything Trump is dealing with now is actually his own fault because he set up Biden that way. Either way it all comes back to Trump. I mean, unless you follow this BS logic, then no one ever needs to take responsibility for their actions, just blame the last guy! See how broken your cult logic is?
Acting like Trump has no fault for the choices, actions, and words he chooses is pathetic. You sound like a MAGA cultist through and through my guy. Baaaa louder, maybe you’ll drown out reality fully one day and finally find all the scapegoats you need to feel secure in your world view.
TL;DR - Apply your “president directly before X” logic to Biden too instead of just your cult leader, and you’ll maybe realize how flawed it is.
Let’s ignore the specific actions that have clear and direct lines leading to what’s happening right now and attack the concept of causality itself with vapid smarmy internet trolling.
You mean like the very comment I first responded to?
don’t worry guys, the libs will vote for another geriatric. this will all be over in about 3 and a half years.
You seem lost lol.
But sure, you can be overly self-serious and pull all the threads you want. I’m sure if I pulled the threads, I could find a way to blame the Founding Fathers for a lot of this, too. At some point, you need to stop looking at the past and blaming people like it does anything and instead look to the future and the changes you can make.
But then you couldn’t complain online with cringe name calling like “deporter in chief” instead of talking about the topic like a big boy.
I mean, why stop at 8 years ago? Can we work Truman into being responsible for this, too?
I’m just surprised you’re not blaming Obama.
Same, fiber optic HDMI can actually push 120fps 4K pretty far. Then just an RF adapter and you can use your wireless Xbox controller. Then I just have a wireless keyboard with mouse pad to type or click if need be.
It’s cool to be wrong bro, people are wrong all the time and they’re fine.
lol
I don’t understand what you mean, but it sounds like you hate 'merica!
Ok boomer
Lots of women having high paid jobs doesn’t mean there aren’t more women than men being paid for the same work, or for similar amounts of effort.
I agree, I literally said “yes, there are women getting paid less for the same work” so I don’t know why you still think I’m missing the point. I’ve acknowledged that reality. I believe it’s you missing the point, honestly. Yes, there are tons of women who are paid more than men, it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of men who get paid less than women too. That’s why I ended saying “We should address those struggles, all of them, and not just focus on one side.”
You talk about me wing one sided while thinking women doing fully time child care would have time to study to advance their career? Lol, no.
Lol yes. I mean, we just going to forget dads who raise children I guess.
Children take a large amount of time and resources to raise.
Yes, and there are men who raise children, too.
The way society is set up, women are expected and obliged to sacrifice time, men are expected to provide resources. In the mens case, this means pressure to advance, through promotion or a higher paid role. For women the pressure is to cut down on work and responsibilities at work to the detriment of their long term career.
This is a cop out. We are all adults and make our own decisions. Society isn’t forcing someone to stay home. You have a partner and you plan your life, doing what is right for you. Using what society expects as an excuse is just that, an excuse.
The mother could go back to work and the man could stay home just as easily. It is a choice made by the couple, framing it as anything else is dishonest.
You talk about men having to sacrifice a preferred career ro take a better paid one. How do you think it goes for the woman’s preferred career while full time caring for kids? The end result is both parties would lose their preferred careers but in the man’s case he ends up wealthier.
Yes, wealthier. That’s the only difference? Really? Sure, with possibly years taken off his life, and miserable every day. See, that’s what I mean, you only look at it from one side. You don’t seem to even think about the reality that the man could literally be working himself to death, or that he works all day to support children he never sees, or that he forces himself to work if he’s sick or injured so the family can survive. You think “well he has more money so he’s better.” Really? A man working two jobs and knows nothing else, too tired to enjoy life, is doing worse than the stay-at-home mom raising the child and getting to see them grow? Yes, it’s still a hard job to be a stay-at-home mom, but let’s not pretend like it’s the same. Have you ever actually thought about the other side of this situation before, because it seems like you haven’t?
Either way, at the end of the day, the couple makes their own choices for them and no one else. Any societal pressures or BS like that should be shot down on both sides.
And the people and things they carry.