LustyArgonian

No Planned Parenthood is already not able to take Medicaid/Medicare in some places

People die in heat and live in their cars.

It’s just called dry camping, some people don’t have a choice.

I’m emphasizing that even if she had left them.in her home for that long, it is wrong. Obviously it is worse because of the car

Dry camping is just a term for sleeping in your car. It isn’t literally camping per se but it can be.

You have to use an AC when it’s hot out or you’ll die.

Using a clothes dryer has a bigger impact than a hybrid car running AC.

If they have a hybrid, the engine doesn’t idle all night, only intermittently to charge the battery.

It is more ethical and better for the environment to leave a hybrid running all night (engine only kicking on every so often) than a typical home or apartment which has a much bigger daily carbon impact. A hybrid isn’t the same as a normal idling car.

People die in heat and live in their cars. Do you go without air conditioning when it’s over 100 degrees out? No, because you don’t want to die of heatstroke, right? So why is your indoor climate control more justified?

And yeah car exhaust is bad for everyone, I agree, including the person in the idling car.

If they have a hybrid, it is more ethical and better for the environment to leave it running all night (engine only kicking on every so often) than a typical home or apartment which has a much bigger daily carbon impact.

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And she had a hybrid vehicle btw

It’s a Toyota hybrid though, they are regularly used for camping.

https://www.reddit.com/r/priusdwellers/

The engine getting overheated isn’t usually a concern because it only turns on to charge the big battery. Sometimes if it’s hot inside the car, the engine in Toyota hybrids will stay on indefinitely, but thats to reduce the heat on the big battery. If the inside of the car is cool, then the big battery is cooled and the engine won’t stay on. Even in 101 degree heat, that’s still over 100degrees additional to overheat an engine and it only runs for about 5min at a time to charge the big battery.

I would never use this info as an excuse to do what she did though ofc, no one should leave children that small unattended in a car, not even for 5minutes.

People regularly camp overnight in their Toyota hybrids with them running, there’s an entire Prius camping subreddit about it. I’ve done it myself to visit a dying family member in the desert, it only cost me $5.00 of gas to let it run all night with AC on. Engine only kicks on to charge the battery. So the car itself is whatever.

Yeah I still think she should be charged with child endangerment though because you never leave kids that young (too young apparently to open the door and leave) alone unattended, especially for that long.

Yes, this is the gold standard (owning your own food sources) but owning your own land has become vanishingly rare these days

I think it’s more related to hypermasculinity and meat. Eg grilling steaks. The whole bacon craze with men. Those Burger King commercials with all the meat and the girls licking ranch. Hungry Man frozen dinners with the meat as the biggest and most important thing.The fact that they call their dicks their meat or sausage (does look like sausage so I get). The weightlifting bros and high protein diets that are usually meat. Keto and men and Joe Rogan. The Atkins diet being marketed to men. I was just doing a back and forth with a guy on Lemmy who insisted the only food you need to eat is meat because it has all the vitamins you need (it does not, or at least, muscle meat does not and he didn’t seem into eating organ meat like heart and liver).

But yeah it’s also probably related to “Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” stuff too.

I just think it’s the masculinity thing because a lot of rightwing men have to hide any bit of femininity they can, and most people are a mix of masculine and feminine traits normally so it causes rightwing men to overcompensate to hide it.

The solution for meat eaters is something like a farm co-op where you can literally drive by your food and see how it is. We used to buy half a cow from a local farmer and his cows were in nice fields etc.

Trump is selling us off to China, he said so today in the cabinet meeting. Everything is expensive because China owns it. Climate change is here, AMOC collapse is ongoing, we’re pretty fucked tbh. So they need land and clean water for their people, we all do. Floods absolutely destroy/contaminate clean water sources like lakes. And there’s been massive floods globally, especially in China.

Then you lose. I accept you quit and lost. Bye.

Yes, you do need to provide evidence for your claims. I’ve provided evidence and explained my position, and your position has been fallacies and ad homs. That’s not a valid refutation. That you need this explained to you is … Lol

your fallacy is the fallacy fallacy

That’s not how fallacies work lol. You have to specifically outline what part of speech is using fallacious arguments. It’s not “my” fallacy lol

That’s also not how the fallacy fallacy works in argument, because it 1) shows you admit you have argued in bad faith and 2) goes back to arguing in good faith because that is what is considered reasonable, that is, able to be reasoned with, and not nonsense 3) you based your argument on the fallacies themselves, thus making it fallacious

That the argument is fallacious only means that the argument cannot succeed in proving its consequent.[6] But showing how one argument in a complex thesis is fallaciously reasoned does not necessarily invalidate its conclusion if that conclusion is not dependent on the fallacy.

Your conclusions are dependent on the fallacy, you admit it is a fallacy, and you cannot argue in good faith at all. That’s known as - you lose. You have no substantial argument.

Again, that you need this explained to you is lol

May you end up in court some day, please 🙏

Lol, I don’t cause you to argue in bad faith (with entire comments full of fallacies), that’s you who does so of your own “brainpower.”

You’ve not once made a valid counterargument or even provided evidence. What evidence? The only content I’ve seen is your ableism and ad hominems. Can you actually form an independent, good faith argument backed with valid evidence? I haven’t seen evidence of THAT being able to happen yet.

Again, you seem to think Lemmy mods are in charge of who is and isnt a Nazi, that’s so strange lol. But I dont usually report to mods, I’m an adult who can handle an argument (are you?). I also am an adult who can read what people write and form opinions about them, without needing another adult to intervene or tell me how to think. Maybe that’s your issue? No mod or big friend to tell you how to argue in good faith here?

Normally I would just mock you by pointing out that liberals stay in the tweets while leftists get out on the streets, but you’re obviously suffering from mental illness

Here’s an ad hominem and ableism. Your refusal to debate the argument here is a fallacy and bad faith.

and I don’t think it’s very nice to make fun of people who are clearly having a mental breakdown, judging by your totally normal reaction.

2nd instance of ad hom and ableism in this comment alone.

As for BRICS,

Thanks for reminding me you failed to answer any questions and lost this debate completely.

Also, hey @antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com, turns out it’s uh checks notes BRICS that’s censoring Wikipedia to convince you not to drink your own pee.

Strawman, that was never said. I also have a longform comment to that user already explaining why the science of the pee drinking stuff is bogus, so somehow you did a double strawman.

Yup, bunch of totally normal people in these comments.

3rd instance of ad hom and ableism

Now for this comment.

you’re very clearly dedicated to whatever this wonderful and deep narrative is that you’ve crafted

That’s literally just having integrity and debating a position. You can’t argue because you don’t know how to argue this topic in good faith and apparently too childish to admit it.

and also, argonians have stinky fish breath

This is an ad hom, it is being used in an argument to strengthen your side, and further, you are basing the entirety of your refusal to discuss in good faith on ad homs in the previous comment.

you’re wrong, because your arguments suck

This is also a fallacy and bad faith argument, it would be dismissed. Circular reasoning.

An ad hominem is an attempt to refute an argument by using a personal attack

That’s what you did. Literally. Don’t gaslight. I quoted it so you can see. You then changed the exucse to not argue in good faith in this most recent comment to lack the ableism, which is why it looks hilarious, like you’re upset I’m able to argue and think.

Oh, and if you’re going to call someone a nazi, at least make it someone the average person would believe is a nazi

You are one or you support them which makes you one.

If I was anything of the sort, I personally know three admins of my instance who would not hesitate to ban me in an instant, and one or two of them could probably dox me if they wanted to.

Really bad application of appeal to authority - fallacy. Lemmy mods dont determine who is a Nazi lol

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