Idk if this is sarcasm but you clearly don’t know the FBI if you think they’d be discouraging assassinations. They’d track your IP and gas you up as much as they could to build incriminating evidence to show that they caught a dangerous left wing terrorist.
The main cause for the revolutions of 1905 and 1917 was the governments failure to handle the war. No one was striking or in the streets because an SR killed another minister
Never said I love billionaires and capitalism, just saying there are better ways to fight them then assassinations. It’s trying to solve a systemic problem with an individualistic solution.
We need to organize and unite to defeat the capitalists, if people rally around a dead oligarch then that can be good, but if it alienates people due to the inevitable collateral damage then that’s bad for the cause.
Either way though the main challenge is building solidarity and there are safer ways to do this with more mass appeal, albeit less drama, then assassinations.
The SRs did this for nearly a century in czarist Russia and it didn’t bring them any closer to revolution. By the 1910s they made being a minister for the Czar a legitimately dangerous profession, if anything it made the regime more reactionary and made them beef up the police state.
Not op but maybe they’re talking about how a reduction on the value of the dollar makes US exports more viable, and offshoring less valuable as the companies won’t save as much on wages. So potentially good for US workers, bad for US consumers.
In 1814, the British Government recognized Shrapnel’s contribution by awarding him £1,200 (£82,600 in 2025) a year for life.[5] Bureaucracy, however, prevented him from receiving the full benefit of this award
Didn’t even get rich off it like alfred nobel, just did it for his love of killing Frenchmen.
should we be invaded
More to protect against native American raids in response to continued encroachment and slave rebellions. These are what militias are effective against.
A militia doesn’t stand a chance against an organized european army, the revolution plainly proved that as the US was losing until they organized the Continental army and put Washington in charge.
Maybe the solution is some Spotify like service for journalism. Ie. Pay $20 a month and get access to most papers, and the revenue is split by view count. Even better would be making it a tax so since everyone is paying there’s no need for login.
One thing some people fail to consider is the personnel costs. Crewing an aircraft for 2 hours is half the price of crewing a train for 4 hours to get the same distance.
You’re also discounting your labor as a driver. Driving takes attention whereas on a train you can just kick back and relax.
I don’t think any “tankie” is going to have their minds changed by this post. Unless they’re a 90 year old Russian who has gone out of there way to avoid “western propaganda” they’ve already heard all these points a million times over.
If anything posts like these reinforce their identity because they can dunk on them with their prepared rebuttals to all of this.
Always gonna plug disc sports when threads like this pop up. Ultimate Frisbee is fun and if you live in even a minor city there’s usually a rec league to join. Has the best culture of any sport IMO, full of the chilliest most accepting people who are always looking for more people to join and with rec leagues people will sometimes go out to the bar after to hang out.
Disc golf is also great for meeting people if you’re not as into cardio. Can join tournaments and they’ll usually pair you up with people. Or just go solo to the course and occasionally someone else will offer to let you join their round or if you’re waiting with another solo at a hole you can offer to let them join you.
Both are also very cheap activities, Frisbee you just need cleats and to pay ~$50 for a rec league season. Disc golf is basically free once you get discs.
OP said he’s in car centric america, in my experience those are the only people who regularly ride bicycles.
Israel was able to pinpoint the location of top political figures extremely easy. That means that the civil society hates more the government than israel.
This shows more the competence of the mossad / CIA then broad support for Israel. They just need to compromise/ payoff one person at the top of the regime to get the ayatollahs location and then bomb it.
I think you’re vastly underestimating the hatred of Israel in Iran. It’s not like here in the US where people are just starting to come around to the idea that Israel is a bad actor despite the efforts of the media. In Iran the media has been constantly showcasing the atrocities of Israel and the plight of the Palestinians for decades. Even if that wasn’t enough they just bombed the country and started a war with no reason given. Even if some people hate the government more than Israel they still hate Israel, and if given a chance to decide their government, if this one falls, they will probably pick one that is antagonistic to Israel.
Same in Gaza and this is why Israel will never let there be elections in Gaza. They know that if people can vote they will vote for a government hostile to Israel, just like they did in 2006. They don’t want a government with popular support and legitimacy because it’ll make them look even worse when they bomb them.
Yes the Ayatollah massacred his own people, but that sadly is the logical move for an authoritarian regime. Building nukes and making the sanctions that cripple the economy which created the unrest permanent is not the best strategic move, as mentioned above. They want to get a deal done, it’s just trump / neta yahu will take nothing but complete capitulation.
They’re enriching uranium and denying inspectors because the US dropped out of the deal and they’re trying to bring them to the table. If the US is going to impose sanctions and put pressure on them they have to put pressure back on the US . Otherwise the US can just sit back and wait for the regime to collapse under the weight of crippling sanctions.
Under the JCPOA Iran never failed an inspection, it wasn’t until Trump dropped out of the deal that they stopped allowing them in, and if another deal is reached there’s no reason to believe that they’ll violate it.
If you look at the iranian regime as rational actors instead of crazy religious fanatics then all this starts to make sense. They can’t afford to be crazy religious fanatics, they have to make the best strategic moves because their regime is teetering under the weight of both external and internal pressures. The fact they’ve managed to survive this long is a testament to their capabilities. This is not to say their regime is good in a moralistic sense, it’s not, only that it’s good at keeping power.
Yes, and a lot of Iranians support their government, or want a theocracy that’s even more paternalistic. If the regime falls now you’ll most likely see either a military dictatorship take over to suppress the various conflicts and contradictions in the country, or those conflicts flare up into a civil war between theocrats and Democrats similar to Syria. Israel wants the civil war because a military dictator is still probably going to shoot missiles at them, arm Hezbollah and Hamas etc. while a civil war all the missiles are fired within the country.
Israel doesn’t want a unified Iran, whether under a democracy or dictatorship, because Iran is mostly unified under their hatred for Israel due to its various crimes.
Trump is torn between the neoconservatives like Rubio, formally bolton etc, and Israel that want regime change and his own unwillingness to go full troops on the ground. The neocons successfully get trump to blow up Obama era deals designed to keep the peace by catering to Trump’s ego telling him he can get a better deal than Obama, in reality they don’t want a deal and want to escalate but this is the best they can get.
So trump goes to the negotiating table only to find out that Obama’s deal is the best he can get. Frustrated and unwilling to admit Obama was just as good a negotiator as him he begins to blame the leaders for their intransigence. The longer this goes on the dumber he looks for blowing up the original deal and not being able to get a new one, all the while Iran is enriching more uranium to try and push the US to accept the old deal.
Then Venezuela happens and he comes up with a new plan, if you can’t change the deal you can at least change the negotiating team. He can take out the leader, use them as a scapegoat for the long stalled negotiations, sign the same deal and call it a win. Maduro repeatedly said he was willing to play ball with Trump but it would be on similar grounds to the Obama era deal but trump couldn’t go back to the US and say he re-imoosed all these sanctions for nothing, so he took out Maduro, got a reason to declare victory and went home.
My guess is he’s trying to do the same here, say all the issues with negotiations were because of the Ayatollah, sign a new version of the same deal with Trump branding like the USMCA , declare victory and head home.
Is Israel gaining something that I’m not seeing? Destabilization the main goal?
Yes, Israel doesn’t want regime change because they know hatred for Israel is so broad that it will survive a regime change, especially one triggered by a war of aggression started by them. They want to turn Iran into the next Syria and get them to turn all of their ire inwards instead of at them.
By doing this Israel wants a more friendly government.
Israel knows there will never be a friendly government to them in Iran, Israel knows that hatred for Israel is broad and will survive a regime change, especially one triggered by a war of aggression from Israel. They’re hoping to turn Iran into the next Syria, keep them fighting amongst themselves so they can’t turn their ire towards them.
Unless you are a lover of Islamist fundamentalism or a stern believer in international law, there is nobody who is rooting for these bastards to stay in power.
I’m fine with them staying in power, yes if the alternative is a liberal western democracy then it’d be great if they were overthrown, but that’s not realistic. If you look at the real alternatives by looking at the region the current regime isn’t that bad, there are elections and women can vote, compare that to the Gulf monarchies or the other dictatorships and theocracies in the region.
The most likely outcome if this regime falls isn’t a democracy, it’s a decades long civil war that probably ends with another form of Islamic dictatorship just like in Syria. This is what the US and Israel want, because both of them recognize that hate for them and desire for a nuclear bomb to protect themselves from them is broad enough that it will survive a regime change so the best option is to turn all Irans energy inward into fighting amongst themselves. This is also the worst possible outcome for the Iranian people.
The SRs did help to organize the country side and rally them for the revolution, but the peasants weren’t rallying because of there assassinations, they were joining because of there promise to expropriate the rich landlords and redistribute the land to the peasants. If another party came along promising land redistribution, but without the history of assassinations, the peasents would join it just as enthusiastically. As seen with Makhno and the anarchists.