There is no positive motivation to move people away from meat. Health maybe? Shame and forcing self-reflection is one of the few effective tools.

Your last paragraph is just rubbish. That’s not what I was calling pathetic.

So honestly, in your opinion, one of the only ways a vegan can change people’s minds is to take them shopping and PAY for their food for them. Amazing, this is a new level of shitty push the blame away behaviour. Pathetic.