adjusts glasses mhh ackshually… Well like if you mean the start of puberty (8-13) yes fuck that, but its not pedophilia after a certain age by definition. If you feel calling it pedophilia cause it has extra shock value sure, you can try and do that, but it’s just untrue.

While I agree the younger you go the more icky it gets, 18 as the cutoff is completely arbitrary and a 16y/o could be way more mature than an 18y/o in a ton of cases, of course there are special protections even for 16/17 (some considering bigger age gaps worse even if everything else is proper and legal)

I don’t feel I was any differently prepared to engage in sex at 16 compared to 18, if we are gonna argue that we should drive age of consent to 21y/o maybe instead. Or higher.

So “mature enough” could be untrue even for something that’s 23 years old or older, while no longer pedo after the defined pedophilia cutoff age is just a fact.

ephebophilia From what I just googled ephebophilia starts at 15, 11-14 is hebephilia, I think a lower age of consent in some cases can be argued (I think it’s already a thing that in special cases it is already allowed, for example, a 16-17 y/o with someone who is 18-20) with special protections in place, like keeping a close look at the relationship and power dynamics.

Talking about this as a non-professional pedo (sarcasm), as I once dated 16 while I was 19, yea, a bit icky, but legal. I think the law as it is already contemplates underaged relationships enough, I think it even contemplates 16-17 with older adults even, again with a ton of restrictions (you can get charged super fast if the relationship has abuses that might pass as normal fights in a same age relationship, stuff like that)

I think its perfect as it is really. Safe enough for most and even giving a bit for the most depraved, impatient people of society that don’t wanna necessarily wait

I think you should flat out not accept anything 15 and lower, you’re cutting too close to the person not being mature enough, a 16 y/o is pretty close to 18 when it comes to maturity, but go to 15,14,13, and that’s not a thing anymore, 12 and less is insane to even think about.

I mean we are already halfway there, i had to do a thing with my mobile phone provider, i had to talk to a computer for 4 full hours before i was finally connected with a human, i think this is more likely, it will just get longer, maybe you’ll need 6 hours or days of talking to an AI and then they might connect you to a human