Nope, see my reply to sibling for a more complete example

I think it was lamentation rather than complaint.

I may be too much of a computer nerd to notice when using them both

That’s probably true of just about everyone on Lemmy.

What does Telegram do better and how?

User experience, like I said. How many less technically inclined people do you know who will understand why they have no message history in Signal after moving devices? Yes, they could have kept it if they’d had backups enabled and moved the archive over and restored from it, but it’s too late now, their entire contact list has been notified that their safety number’s changed (another aspect we get to attempt to explain). It’s a bummer.

I won’t be popular in this thread, but I don’t fight this battle anymore. Telegram beats Signal in virtually every aspect of user experience. If a person is unlikely to be convinced that e2ee is worth taking all the UX hits, I don’t try anymore.

Right!? I was half expecting a maintainer somewhere to start adding some extra recommends or something when it really started to get grim. Happy Plasma user now 🚀

Oh I misunderstood, I thought he meant there’s an element of sport in finding a working stream for what you want 🤦

Not sure how much this was serious, but now that you say it I do feel like there’s an element of that! 💯