

<Drowning Pool playing in the background>
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the… BAAAAAAAAAANK!


<Drowning Pool playing in the background>
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the bank…
Take your money out the… BAAAAAAAAAANK!


Do you want me to get Moby Dick out again‽ Does anyone want that?


Today, stuff gets exported in 4k and that’s it. No need for anything more.
I don’t think it’s as ubiquitous as you think. 1080p is pretty much standard (aside from old videos), 4K is still high-end and most uploading to that on YT are probably more tech-leaning channels who actually do use it. I even see new stuff from TV corps that’s still only 1080p.
4K if you’re using a full-raster workflow is taxing at every step. Display, CPU/GPU (for software stability, filters/effects), RAM and storage, internet upload speed, also camera (and fast storage there too) where relevant. Also backups, and maybe even higher-res workflow to allow room to crop/re-frame if needed.
I imagine it must be a disappointment to actually buy a 4K monitor for content viewing, stuck watching 1080p on new videos because the creators can’t afford that workflow or just don’t care. Even stuff that is 4K might have issues with encoding quality due to cost-cutting (or requires higher subscription cost).
8K is a thing too (but even more impractical), so the problem is repeated there too.
So yeah, I would say it is a meaningful difference that vector doesn’t have this problem.


A video has sound, can be exported from the animation software to a single file, and it can be played in a standard video player.
Animated SVG does not sound like it does that, and needing new paid* software isn’t great for adoption either. And honestly, I’ve never even heard of animated SVG (I’m well aware of SVG and that it probably could be animated with CSS or JS but that alone does not make it a thing).
The fact that vector works at resolutions (even if they don’t exist yet!) without the author even needing to think about it (let alone re-export) is an advantage. It can be great for many 2D aesthetics (many cartoons even used it!), the biggest complication is Adobe (and whoever is selling a subscription to what you mentioned).
Also that people are still developing things with Flash (even if it has to be ran via Ruffle) tells me again that the issue isn’t vector, it’s that replacing a format with ingredients is not an effective strategy if you actually want people to use it.
* yeah I know Flash was expensive as well (except y’know… other ways), but communities were already using it


You keep saying ‘better’ like if heavier solutions have no downsides, like saying raytracing or gaussian splatting make all older rendering tech obsolete.
For individual animations sure data doesn’t seem to matter, but if you want to binge/download something like Homestar Runner at 1080p+ that data adds up when pre-rastered. The internet in the US isn’t always great (esp. rural, cost), even worse with upload speed.
Flash also had frame animation, with bezier curves and vector blob drawing… both of which are the big thing missing from modern solutions. Alternatives in modern engines aren’t quite the same and must be intentionally sought out, and also I don’t think that’d even be well supported by platforms (itch doesn’t even have an animation section) unless you’re fine with it being in a games section.
Newgrounds also still does Flash Forward jams. I wouldn’t say “better” things killed Flash, just that support was ripped away. There isn’t much of a choice. If you want Flash-style animation (and I don’t mean skeletal-only), it’s just Ruffle or maybe Wick Editor.
the internet moving away from
I see this as an implementation failure.
WebGL doesn’t have a container format, and a vector video format could exist (on Youtube, or played with an HTML5 video player) but doesn’t. The internet “moved away” because the key players who killed Flash didn’t implement things that would bring HTML5 to closer parity with what Flash did.
I could also see parallels made to other parts of life where the choice has been made for you many years ago.


I had some (but not much) issue back when I used Chrome (although IIRC just as much was a mime-type issue not letting them play in the browser) and still use the standalone player without issue.
I don’t think anyone is defending Flash used for websites, aside from some personal blog or portfolio maybe.


They do have Ruffle on their site (a bit slower to load IME, but functional) even for new animations (click on the HR icon, not the Youtube icon).
There are the orginal .SWFs for that, disjointed in their own way. I wish they (or someone) would’ve merged things so the old menus actually worked, if not further like each file being a season.
EDIT: they did make the games linked together on the website. And now I do see one of the main pages that links too, though the loading screens make it a bit cumbersome (it seems to be tweaked for Ruffle, or at least only the main page seems to work when the .SWF url is loaded in the standalone player …unless it just can’t do linked swfs).


I wouldn’t say it died, I remember years of people calling it dead but it still seemed to have communities up until support was forcibly removed in 2021. I’d say it was killed, in a very “bring out your dead” (“I’m getting better!”) fashion.
Like OP is saying, it wasn’t really* replaced. If vector video was in HTML5 spec to the point you could watch (non-prerastered) vector animations on Youtube (or former Flash sites similar to what Ruffle does, but with less overhead) that would still be abandoning the interactivity but I’d at least see the argument that there was some attempt to replace it.
Needing a local server and the lack of container format also makes preservation messier.
* sure, a subset of it was replaced for popular usage and even some of it is still technically possible, but good luck with that. I’m pretty sure communities around that are more dead than Flash was before the end, and maybe even still (for instance, NG with Flash Forward jams).


it works about as well as a non-confidence vote
That doesn’t seem true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_defeated_by_votes_of_no_confidence
vs
Nixon resigning so he could get pardoned (that’s it).


I am using a 2019 Ryzen 2700 sale build ($461, not counting 1050Ti which I just carried over) and minipcs really seem lacking when it comes to GPU power. Like the one you linked to is about the same GPU performance as my card (I’ve seen a few other new-ish models with decent price use it too, despite having a moderately faster CPU than mine).
The models with a better GPU (Radeon-8060S) are in the beyond-budget category (even beyond $2K), so you are definitely being charged a premium for the small form factor (even despite potential drawbacks). Or maybe the “AI” branding is part of it…
Maybe in 5-10 more years it will become affordable. Currently, if a low-end APU is faster than your current CPU you might be better off doing getting/building with that, or some dirt-cheap used GPU (AMD Polaris card, or even saw a video on 1050Tis being $20) maybe.
EDIT: Potentially Arc if you don’t mind playing the beta tester (and at least they don’t cheap out on VRAM). Some minipc or SBC might make sense for specific scenarios though, especially if there ever are heavy sales.
I dunno, seems like wishful thinking. Between AC, generators, mansions, bunkers, personal doctors, and being able to fuck off to safer parts of the world in a private jet on the slightest whim I don’t think consequences will be suffered for them.
Maybe they get heat stroke while on some psychedelic retreat. More likely they just do stuff like that less often or do something else, and I sorta feel like the next headline will be some rich person mauled by their exotic pet instead. I guess they could also do something stupid with wilderness guides, too (I can already imagine the argument/prophetic-warning video posted online). Some sort of hubris. Maybe something involving their own product/service, like a rocket.
Or it may even be something more mundane than that, like choking on food with a) nobody around to help b) help not offered, or pushed away out of pride.
Even if consequences could be had normally, it’d likely be experienced by their kids or grand-kids instead (even more likely if they somehow don’t turn out to be such terrible people).
Also, my first thought:
from Best Friend:
It’s not out world anymore… It’s not out world anymore!
It’s not out world… and it never was.
…and that’s not our problem. That’s not our problem, anymore!


Not sure what you think I’m arguing, I’m just talking in the context of the loneliness epidemic.


The royal you.
I was not really talking about family, but that is still a thing. A child may feel unloved because their parent(s) spend too much time working, or because of conditions they are forced to endure. Even if the parents are doing their best.
Needing to “learn” what love is, completely in-line with what I’m saying though. Specifically because having love and finding love are vastly different. Also a whole lot more blocking factors for finding, different situations.


I mean, that sounds like saying we forgot the power of money or friendship. I think we know, but when we’re talking about any sort of economy it’s easy to see it as a game that you aren’t properly prepared to play.


A maid just doesn’t make sense for fellas such as myself in this economy, Neil. I’ve been known to cook a succulent meal or two.
Don’t talk of love, well I’ve heard the word before.


It’s hard to make that change
When life and love turns strange… and old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love.
To live a love, you gotta be “part of”


They were askin’ if you were around… I told them you were: l i v i n '.


do you mind sharing the machine?
Atlas Orthogonal Percussion Instrument*. Basically it pushes the top vertebra back into alignment based on the precise angle needed.
For some background, the cause is I had whiplash many years ago. I also likely have EDS (a potential factor for the low-speed whiplash) so it’s possible even if this machine has some basis it might not be a reliable fix for me.
* often called just the first 2 words


That’s not a contradiction, the fact that it is the page you get from searching the term is exactly their point.
Looking at the page Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, it even seems to point to both having the same origin (1874 USA) and later changing:
Osteopathic medicine (as defined and regulated in the United States) emerged historically from the quasi-medical practice of osteopathy, but has become a distinct and proper medical profession.
Be it resolved, that the American Osteopathic Association institute a policy, both officially in our publications and individually on a conversational basis, to use the terms osteopathic medicine in place of the word osteopathy and osteopathic physician and surgeon in place of osteopath; the words osteopathy and osteopath being reserved for historical, sentimental, and informal discussions only
Though also…
DO schools provide an additional 300–500 hours in the study of hands-on manual medicine and the body’s musculoskeletal system, which is referred to as osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM). Osteopathic manipulation is a pseudoscience.
and from the related sources:
Mark Crislip also pointed out that DOs are using less and less osteopathic manipulation in their practice. This is a good thing, and hopefully it will eventually completely fade away. Essentially we need to distinguish between osteopathic medicine, which is mostly equivalent to standard medicine, and osteopathic manipulation, which is pure pseudoscience akin to straight chiropractic.
EDIT: Also it really sucks that things are muddied like this, I have a neck problem and there’s a potential solution that uses a precision machine but I have no idea if it’s a real procedure or just more quackery. I’ve asked a few times and got no responses or just downvotes. Though I also don’t know if the chiro places near me have it or the needed x-ray capability.
Honestly, with a fresh-water rinse I could easily see that being beneficial.
Consider:
Maybe even the type of thing that could run off of solar or backup power for a planned shower.
Though yeah, I guess a bath (with a quick shower after) probably is a whole lot cheaper and easier to (plumb rather than) engineer. Plastic tubs have their own grossness, though.
I also imagine this fitting more as some sci-fi thing, not sure how well it’d be easy to manage water in space, though. My first thought would be people annoyed with having to vacuum up droplets, get blasted with air, or being stuck in a drying room as a safety procedure. And some sci-fi vat bath might still make more sense.