No worries mate.

but i’ll try fixing my arr stack first ! it’s a mess

I can’t help with the *arr stack as I don’t run it, however there are quite a few here who do and I’m sure they’d be willing to help

Did I say you did so on this account?

OK you got me. I joined a year ago, made a fistful of accounts, just for this very day. Even though, if you rifle through all of my posts and comments, you’ll pretty much see, I have no programming skills and I have nothing to sell. But again, you are welcome to your own opinion.

Your long reply

I’m— sorry—I—used—too—many—sentences.

I’m very aware that you don’t consider it an ad, but it’s an ad in my eyes

I’ve very aware that you do see it as an ad. So, here we are. I’m about to fire up a bowl, do you partake? It’s some gnarly gas for sure. I like to share what I’ve grown with my own two hands. No strings attached. You don’t have to put 5 on it.

I do consider it an ad to recruit people to do beta testing for a paid product.

Fair. You do, I don’t.

Now that is quite hilarious. What paid products am I advertising? I’m not a dev, and frankly I would never be a dev. For one, I’m not that well educated in the area of programming. Two, I wouldn’t be confident enough to release it to the public. Three, I wouldn’t put up with all the bellyaching that goes on, demanding that a dev do this or that with something he wrote. Hard pass.

I’m aware, and don’t think that ads to provide free labor for a paid product belong here.

I honestly think, that the OP/Dev in question acted in good faith. I do not view his thread as an advertisement to buy his product. IMHO, he solicited beta testers for his product that integrates with the *arr stack, which the vast amount of selfhosters deploy early on in their selfhosting journey. Where else would be a better place than a selfhosting community?

Here you are again. LOL

…and you keep coming back to tell me how hilarious I am. How hilarious it that? Who is the weak one now?

Please, keep demonstrating the type of person you are. its hilarious

I’m glad to be bringing some jocularity to an otherwise dismal thread.

Your opinion…something, something assholes

Don’t tell me to shut the fuck up if you aren’t willing to hear a very blunt retort.

Well, for one, I can actually scroll right by things I’m uninterested in. My mouse wheel goes by three row clicks. It doesn’t take all that much effort, even for this old geezer, to just whiz right on by. Even if it’s something I’m uninterested in, like the *arr stack in general, I can still be positive about it. It’s pretty fascinating to me how it all clicks together. But I have definite, hard coded opinions against piracy in general, no matter what your rationale is. I know some use the *arr stack for their own physical collections, but let’s be real…the vast amount of selfhosters that deploy the *arr stack are pirating.

why are you fighting so hard for it?

Because I honestly feel that the OP with the integrated, closed source app he asked if anyone wanted to beta test, acted in good faith.

but they will make money off of beta tester’s free labor.

That’s exactly how beta testing works. I’ve mentioned, I do a lot of beta testing for BetaBound. I’m currently beta testing a rumba floor sweeper knock off. WHen I’m done, the company says ‘thank you’ by letting me keep the rather pricey product. Are they going to make money? Of course they will. That’s why they started business…to make money.

why are you ok with advertising for paid for products being shoved down your throat?

No one, not one living soul that has graced the halls of Lemmy selfhosted since I’ve been here has shoved anything down anyone’s throat. Are you not master of your own domain? Do you not possess self control? Additionally, I chart my own course. I don’t let hive mind tell me what I can and can’t selfhost or use in relation to my server.

they arent “willing to give it away”. theyre willing to give it to testers for free labour to test their paid for app.

So, to recap, they’re going to give their app, which is closed source but integrates with what most selfhosters host, to beta testers, who are interested, and in return, the beta testers get to keep the app for free. I see no free labor.

It was said when rule 3 was being discussed, that there are so few selfhosters out here, why gatekeep?

“It’s a paid closed source app”. Why are you not mentioning that little tidbid?

I assumed everyone has a decent reading skills?

Kind for kind.

Well, thank you for your kind words. I’m always willing to share what little I know with anyone who asks.

They should hang out a while first and not have only posts promoting their software, and not only have comments in those threads.

I tend to agree.

The lemmy attitude is very anti commercialization

The lemmy attitude is like chaff in the wind.

I’d rather have something mostly open source (where I can check what blobs it’s actually using) rather than something completely closed where I have no idea what’s under the hood

Mee2! However, not everyone here is of a hive mind. Not everyone here got into selfhosting for the same reasons. Like I’ve mentioned, it’s a big umbrella.