Jerkface (any/all)

You are not gonna like the next 20 years.

Doug Henning was very nearly Prime Minister, except no one voted for the Natural Law Party.

I suppose a product of growing up with anti-intellectualism is that it seems threatening when someone stops everything and turns everyone’s attention to a word that you just used without conceit.

I hate it when people stop a conversation to talk about a word I used. It doesn’t land as a complement.

Good.

The pros are that it cannot be used as leverage against your interests by the vendor, and it’s basically UNIX. But I mean, by that criteria, one should run BSD.

Last time I heard this was 30 years ago, and a man was asking a genie who was going to give his wife double to scare him half to death.

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My phone is just too slow and shitty to support clandestine surveillance

You… admire them??

They fucking absolutely do. And even if they didn’t, I’m sorry to tell you, killing animals that don’t want to die is cruel and violent. Doing so for sensory pleasure or wealth is deeply wrong. The animals we create are morally equivalent to our own children and are owed the exact same unconditional love and protection.

Your second point is speculative. It’s something you clearly don’t know, but you’re choosing to believe because it gives cover and distraction to cruelty and violence.

Cults sometimes survive the death of their leader

I just cook whatever is in season and eat it plain.

okay. now what? If you have a point to make, I suggest you just come out and make it and stop talking around your point. Otherwise you waste both of our time. “Animal abuse” isn’t the name of a specific crime and most forms of animal abuse ARE NOT CRIMES.

Canada has some of the weakest animal protection laws in the Western world. Animals are property with no rights. The protections that exist are mere lip-service. Prosecutions are extremely rare and most forms of cruelty that people commonly practice are perfectly legal.

Do you really want me to tell you what I think about Islam and animal abuse? Why are you bringing this up?

You can place an animal in the open back of a truck in -30C weather and ship them 1,000km, knowing the whole time that the animal will arrive dead, and it is not a crime. No one will bat an eye because it happens THOUSANDS of times a year here in Canada.

You can take a perfectly healthy and happy animal, and stab it right in the throat, because you want the meat, or because you like stabbing animals, and it is not a crime. This also happens many thousands of times a year here in Canada.

Certain animals (mainly pets) have very limited protection against abuse, but those laws do not protect the life of the animal or protect the animal from needless suffering, cruelty, or violence. Factory farming exceeds these protections routinely, but the law is set up in many provinces to make reporting these crimes effectively itself a crime.

You can do whatever you want.

ha ha okay

Because while euthanasia is generally a good thing, there are also big potentials for abuse and unnecessary tragedy. We maintain a pretense of caring about these things with humans and so most governments err on the side of caution while others think they’re such hot shit they can dance their way through the quagmire. Meanwhile, we openly don’t give a single fuck what happens to non-human animals, and our culture is predicated on treating them like objects, so you’re allowed to do whatever you want with them. Kill them because they’re suffering, kill them because they bark too loud, it’s all the same. It’s your dog-shaped object, go nuts.

I haven’t had anyone to take care of me since the 90s and honestly, most stuff just doesn’t get done.

I know you don’t really mean it, but I’m going to use your bad faith arguments to point out some things you should know but have probably never thought about.

Let’s accept that you are a fully committed plant’s rights activist. You considered killing yourself out of respect for your plant brother’s experiences, but ultimately you decide that no creature should be obliged to kill itself simply because of its own inherent nature. You cannot help that you need to eat. So what do you do?

You decide that while you have to eat to survive, that doesn’t mean that you can just eat wantonly, whatever and however the urge strikes you, because there are these serious consequences to your plant friends. You look for the way of life that minimizes the number of plants that you have to kill. Easy, you think, you’ll just eat animals!

Until you realize, those animals eat plants. Those animals ate WAY more plants than you would have if you hadn’t eaten any animals. Oh. Shit. The more animals you eat, the more of your plant sisters you are killing. You realize that your ethical convictions demand that you instead eat only plants, and only as many as you need to survive. Because that is the only solution to this ethical quandary.

But of course, in real life, you are not actually concerned with plant’s rights. It was just a ruse you were pulling. You did not go down this train of thought to its logical conclusion. These are not issues that you have spent years and years thinking about. Rather, like most people, you have been trained to not think about them. You’re not engaging with intellectual honesty, you have begun to attempt to frustrate meaningful discussion. I’m giving you a lot of grace here because I don’t think you realize you did it, and I’d like to give you a chance to see it.