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I agree! :D I don’t want to be overly negative, there were some lovely places in Lisbon. We stayed in Picoas, a beautiful area. A visit to Belem was also very nice, a lovely (but seemingly affluent) neighborhood. Well worth the trip - for anyone reading and feeling down on Lisbon after reading this thread :)

I preferred Porto over Lisbon: more laid back, beautiful old city, friendly people, some of which I kinda missed in Lisbon.

I don’t miss the staircase next to that Eiffel bridge though, that was brutal. 2 years on and my body still remembers the exhaustion.

Amazing! :o

TIL! Never heard that definition, thanks for that.

As for your point, it’s one I like to make sometimes, even though I’m fully in favor of veganism. One just cannot avoid trampling ants when walking. It’s such a fine line, even a paradox that keeps sucking me in. None of the extremes would work: eat everything vs eat nothing. The line drawn by society will always seem arbitrary, no matter where it’s at.

Will future generations ever look at trees the way we look at primates today?

I imagine that would spell trouble for our eating habits.

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