I give up.

I tried left and right to try to install an email server so I could degoogle my life.

But therechnical barrier is thick and Google keeps adding more to it. Forget it. I can’t even get thru the installation process much less trying to get my shit off Google.

I figure, I don’t actually have any need for my email addresses. Just like my phone number. I never call anyone. I’m going to discourage my kids from using email at all. I’ll remind everyone I know that I don’t use email at every opportunity I get just like I remind people to not call me and that my phone number is not available.

Between spammers and Google, I just don’t need this headache in my life. My mom is much less technically savvy than the average pet. So Google will just siphon her data and when the megabits are full then you just delete the old stuff.

You don’t need it. No one will spend their life reading your emails when you’re gone or watching your videos or listening to your recordings or viewing your photos. There’s no need to worry about just deleting the pile of shit you’ve accumulated. I’m this done.

  • ShimitarAEnglish
    15·
    1 hour ago

    What is the problem? I have been self hosting my mail for the last 20+ years and has always worked pretty well.

    I rent a VPS for that since you should not use a residential address for email servers.

    If you are careful enough to configure it properly I assure you that it works and it’s perfectly usable and stable

    All my family primary email addresses are managed in that way on my various domains and we never had a single issue

    Today it’s even easier because there are all in one docker based solutions. But going the hard way is perfectly doable as well.

    Here is my experience, on my wiki, if you are interested https://wiki.gardiol.org/doku.php?id=email%3Astart

    Be aware that there are no optional steps: everything must be properly installed and setup from DNS entries to dkim/dmarc and certificates. But I promise, maintenance it basically zero after a proper setup. And I think twice in 20 years something broke. And the nice part of that email will just be delayed and delivered after you fix it, nothing gets ever lost

    I love email, with all it downfalls, it’s still one of the most resilient and solid stuff on the internet.

    • Brummbaer@pawb.socialEnglish
      3·
      36 minutes ago

      Same here, I have been doing that for around 20 years now too and I started out with postfix and a list of vmails in a text file.

      I wonder where this myth comes from. People host way more out there stuff themselves, but somehow email is too scary …

      • eutampieri@feddit.itEnglish
        1·
        4 minutes ago

        When you begin hosting you have to wait a bit before your email doesn’t go to spam, at least that was my experience in 2018.

      • ShimitarAEnglish
        2·
        1 hour ago

        That is a mandatory requirement for proper email delivery.

        Not an issue with email itself, more due to spam prevention and such.

        I flagree that hosting email servers on residential IPs is a recipe for being filtered and blocked

        • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          13 minutes ago

          I flagree that hosting email servers on residential IPs is a recipe for being filtered and blocked

          Unless your ISP gives you a static address and agrees to change PTR record to your server address. Then it’s no different than any other server on the internet. Obviously odds are that you’re not getting one or if it’s an option they’ll likely charge more than VPS is going to cost you, but it’s not unheard of.

          But for the actual topic, I don’t get the myth either. I’ve got a good old postfix+dovecot setup running and the only problem I have is that spam filtering isn’t quite as good as with commercial providers, but the handful of trash coming trough is easy enough to take care of manually.