Got myself a Dell Latitude E4310 E6410 and Thinkpad T510 for free, both with discrete Nvidia graphics soldered to the mainboard. I’ve installed Linux on them and just went with the nouveau driver since the proprietary Nvidia driver for such old cards is no longer in the Debian 12 repo. Not going to do anything cutting edge on them, but it does leave me wondering:

  • I read that I could, with some effort, install the proprietary driver manually. Am I missing out on anything at all without them, or is nouveau mature enough and the graphics old enough that I wouldn’t notice?
  • Is nouveau with old discrete graphics better or worse than having just Intel’s integrated graphics?
  • Does power consumption vary significantly between nouveau and proprietary drivers?

EDIT

Answering myself after going down a rabbit hole with the T510:

  1. The dGPU is the NVS 3100M, which does have some level of hardware acceleration support under nouveau, so at least it isn’t draining power for zero benefit. However, the dGPU is unable to go past its lowest power state without manually manipulating /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/pstate (I did not try to) and I suspect that this is what kneecaps 3D performance. There should be a marked difference, but I won’t be doing any serious work on these machines, so I’m leaving everything as-is.

  2. This situation is worse than having just integrated graphics due to the inherent power consumption of the GPU core while unable to benefit from higher power states and other optimizations.

  3. Power consumption is probably less, but for much worse performance. At least it is a much better fallback than leaving at maximum.

  • A later variant has the BIOS option to disable the dGPU, mine is an early variant with no options
  • DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    In my experience, nouveau is painfully slow and crashes constantly to the point of being virtually unusable for anything. The developers agree, as in the last couple months nouveau has been phased out of Mesa entirely. More recent Mesa versions now implement OpenGL on Nvidia using Zink on NVK, and the result is quite a bit faster and FAR more stable.

    If your distribution currently still ships a Mesa version which uses nouveau, I would personally recommend you just stick with the Intel graphics for now.