• Ellie@slrpnk.net
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    9 hours ago

    I think it’s still an interesting question whether this feature should be enabled by default (and most people seem to agree it should be).

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        7 hours ago

        The kind if person who would benefit from that shouldn’t be using a computer. But then again, most smartphone users shouldn’t be using a phone. How about choosing different default settings in an installation based on a central “expert” vs “newbie” setting?

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          5 hours ago

          I recently installer something, and KDE showed me where it ended up in the launcher, which I appreciated, and now I’m not supposed to use a computer. Really? Thanks.

          At least me wife will be happy, but I’ll need to find new work.

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          7 hours ago

          People who find computers useful should be using computers.

          This weird idea from some linux users that only people who see their computer as a hobby and have mastery over them should be allowed to use them, and that computers should be designed exclusively around the needs of computer-as-hobby users, is absolutely nuts.

          Its a tool. It should be designed to be useful as possible to anyone who needs such a tool.

          Sincerely,
          Another linux user who cares about UI/UX and is tired of this kind of junk. It’s a dumb argument, let’s all stop making it please. Linux supports all your “technical user” wildest dreams, let the average people have their features and design considerations too.

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            Its a tool. It should be designed to be useful as possible to anyone who needs such a tool.

            Twenty years ago I might have agreed. Now, in hindsight, I can say that giving everyone access to computers & thereby the internet has brought out the worst in humanity, including mass-manipulation and authoritarian regimes thanks to people making even worse calls in elections than they used to.

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          What qualifies as “expert” setting can be very divisive… for me, it would be removing this menu entirely. Or even switching from KDE to sway or similar ^^U

          But if I was the kind of people that do use this kind of menus I would probably find that kind of indication useful. It helps finding the category the app you just installed belongs to. If you install an educational app/game that teaches programming by giving instructions to a turtle in order to draw a graphic/picture (I think I have seen something like that before): which category should it be at? games? education? development? graphics?

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            2 hours ago

            My main point is: If the desktop environment “expert” toggle is set once, gimmicks like this one here would be disabled by default. On a default installation, with the “expert” toggle to “off”, those same gimmicks might be enabled by default.