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    11 hours ago

    Consciousness is a material, measurable process

    Again, prove it. It is YOUR system of thought which requires that every claim must be backed with objective proof. Where is the objective proof of matter? All the rest you’re saying hingest upon that being a fact. But if you can’t prove it as a fact, all you have is an unverified belief that you insist everyone else should have. Which, again, makes you exactly the same as any other oppressor. In your own system of thought. And before you parade some scientists in front of me, ask yourself if you can know that they know what they are talking about, or do you just believe them because they share the same core belief system as you?

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      This is getting very, very silly. You’re rejecting any and all proof of matter despite the continuous and replicatable proof of the same experiments resulting in the same results, across double-blind testing and more, of matter behaving in the same way regardless of who is percieving it.

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        10 hours ago

        Because all your proof hinges on matter being real and prior.

        regardless of who is percieving it.

        And since we require perception to say anything about matter, what does that say about which comes first, matter or consciousness?

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          Matter comes first, because consciousness is represented through brainwaves, electrochemical signals, and stimuli from material perception 👍