Roddenberry originally titled it “Space Communists”, but his wife told him it was a little too “on the nose”.
i think there was literally an episode where an alien race talked about money and shit and Picard said we’ve moved beyond all that. he said it in a way that you would talk about human sacrifice rituals.
Hey now, let’s not categorize them all as Storm Trooper lovers…
There’s also the WH40K fans who think humanity are “the good guys”.
Best part about Warhammer is that they’re all the bad guys
Except Ciaphas Cain, if he was in any other setting dude would be noble bright. But alas he is in 40k so he is just a decent human being amongst monsters.
Someone didn’t read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
the book about the society where everyone lives in polycules?
The book where even air comes with a cost and the libertarian acronym TANSTAAFL (There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch) originates. Also: how old was the newest wife?
“B… But… Starship Troopers isn’t woke!”
“You fool! You simpleton! Starship Troopers is satirical! They were making fun of the shit you love, not glorifying it!”
“Nooooooo!”
The book was a rollercoaster ride. Heinlein himself was a Navy man and I wasnt sure what to expect.
From the first chapter, rather than being heroes, the mobile infantry are committing war crimes against an intelligent race (not the bugs). We also learn that the training is brutal and there is a big scene about how unfortunate it is someone gets kicked out, because it isn’t really their fault and now they will never vote. Not to mention people die in training. Seems more left than I thought.
Then we learn the history of the world. Heinlein predicted the sino-soviet split early, cool. Oh yeah and CIVILIZATION COLLAPSED BECAUSE EVERYBODY STOPPED SPANKING THEIR KIDS. And went too soft on juvenile criminals. Psychologists and their newfangled (in 1959) ideas are to blame.
By the end of the book, in spite of everything, the moral seems to be that military grunts are the backbone of human civilization. Also evolutionary pressures make war totally inevitable.
So… All sci fi is not left wing. All Hollywood sci fi is left wing.
Heinlein books are just like that, for about a quarter to half the book it’s like “oh this is cool and weirdly left wing” and then Heinlein goes nuts. Best example is Stranger in a Strange Land where the first half or so is societal critique and then the rest is occupied by way too much psychic sex cult.
That’s what gets me: Starship Troopers is one of the least subtle pieces of satire I’ve ever seen: Neil Patrick Harris is wearing essentially a Nazi officer’s uniform at one point.
Yet conservative chuds still think it’s a movie about the glories of war and conquest.
The only anti-war movie is The Last Jedi.
You fool! You simpleton! Starship Troopers is satirical!
The movie, yes. The book, not nearly as much.
Damned n’wah!
hippity hoppity.
Let’s not assert that sci-fi is free of assholes. Some authors were bastards. They don’t tend to be popular, but hoo boy, are they out there.
One more time as loud as you can:
“SciFi holds a mirror to society through a futuristic lens!”
dishonorable p’taq
Oh I’m stealing this LMAO
Mev! You! The one who is moving now. Answer!
That game is surprisingly relevant to the US’s current circumstance.
