Not to disrespect people here but please don’t answer if you’re just looking to say a comment that doesn’t give a good explanation or context. Honestly I’m a bit tired of responses like “cause they’re corrupt” or “because they’re fascists”.
I’m hoping someone with experience in law enforcement or law can chime in and show what the actual laws are and why they could be skirting things. What ROE Ice agents might have. I’m also looking at why I don’t see any large law societies bringing these violations if there are any to the courts. I remember years ago there were entire law firms with staff dedicated to areas like this. Why is that not happening today?
Because city prosecutors won’t bring charges unless it’s a guaranteed win.
So even tho it happens on camera, and they could start at the top of the chain and work down applying pressure to find out identities to press charges…
They’re too scared of bringing charges in a case they might lose to even attempt to hold anyone accountable.
Our justice system has been fucked for decades, but Biden refused to fix it (because he literally “wrote” the bills that got us here) and trump wants a broken system to abuse it.
We can’t just keep letting Republicans break shit, then electing “moderates” who refuse to acknowledge there’s even an issue that needs fixed. We need people willing to fight, even if they don’t win 99.999% of battles. We need people who aren’t afraid to lose. Because they understand what happens if we abstain.
Quick edit:
Don’t forget how accurate the system was at identifying college students at protests despite them covering their faces too.
Anyone telling you a small piece of fabric over someone’s face means they’re impossible to be identified by law enforcement is lying because they think you’re dumb enough to fall for obvious bullshit.
Incredibly insightful. Thank you.
Is it a fantasy on my part that there’s some mythical law firm or society that looks for these violations? I always thought there were groups looking for federal agencies violating constitutional rights.
I’m one of the people worried about the face mask issue only because I fear that they’re also not keeping accurate records. I would love to see a lot more effort going into collecting and compiling as much evidence for any ice who are covering their face. When crowds form, don’t just worry about getting the event, instead get pictures of each individual from all angles. Upload it and share it. When the time comes there is a mountain of evidence to use.
Yep.
That’s what the justice system is supposed to do.
The types of organizations you’re talking about in America, instead work on saving innocent people from our justice system. Or at least ensuring punishments are fair.
As far as I know (I don’t know everything) there’s virtually zero organizations with the goal of getting guilty people charged by the state/fed.
Not saying your idea about documenting is a waste. Just that it’s the equivalent of people using plastic straws while billionaires and AI data centers do irreparable damage.
If cities/states actually wanted to press charges, they’d identify with cell snoopers, or just send 20 cops with a warrant to a field office, or look at pay records. Get their identies, then drivers licence photos, start comparing to social media profiles, identify similar picture of kit.
There’s a hundred better/easier ways to identify them. And this is the type of thing AI can actually be used to speed things up. Any average sized city has the resources to identify every ICE agent in their city. They’re just too chicken shit to escalate to that, out of fear ICE will retaliate personally.
So they pretend that tiny piece of fabric over half a face is just unbeatable.
It doesn’t matter if there are entire battalions of lawyers looking for it. Persecutors have the monopoly on getting people charged with crimes.
The other question you can ask is: why isn’t the entire press on fire complaining about government workers committing crimes all day over all over the country?
Who owns the press and who benefits from the crimes? This is why there were laws preventing media consolidation and extensive corporate ownership before they were dismantled over the last 50 years.
I had to look this up and I’m surprised that in most states private prosecution is barred. In the UK it’s still legal, if expensive and uncommon.
Ouch, I never even considered the idea of private prosecution in criminal courts. Looks like a remedy that is worse than the disease.
The police were doing it during BLM every day as well. They’d flood residential areas with tear gas that would seep into random people’s homes with immunity. Local police is one of the most left-leaning areas of the country, and they still let their gangs get away with that kind of violence.
“Local” police…
In virtually every metropolitan PD, a lot of the cops don’t just live in subdivisions, they live way outside of town.
It’s easy to abuse a crowd when it’s not neighbors and people that know you.