also I just realized that Brazil did NOT make a programming language entirely in Spanish and call it “Si” and that my professor was making a joke about C… god damn it

this post is probably too nieche but I feel like Lemmy is nerdy enough that enough people will get it lol

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    I try to avoid python for two main reasons. While coding, white spaces. Who thought that was a good idea? While using, shared dependancies, again who thought thay was a good idea? I have to use pipx or manually make a venv otherwise python scripts start breaking each other. May as well just package it with its own dependancies from the get go.

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      I genuinely do not understand the problem with white spaces that people seem to have. Literally any well formatted code will use whitespace for indentation.

      I imagine that if python syntax was the norm and then a C-style syntax language appeared, the same group of people would be complaining “curly brackets? Who thought that was a good idea?”

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        Its a lot easier to find a misplaced semicolon than a double space that should have been single. With C i can make the code visually easier for me to read. I just gotta remember to end the line with ;

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        The first language I learned had a if-endif-style syntax. Curly braces SUCK compared to that.

        The only downside that whitespaces have is that they often get lost when copy-pasting them.

        It’s virtually impossible to share a small python snippets over some messengers. Other than that I prefer whitespaces over curly braces.

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        right? like if white space weren’t required, how would you format your code differently? arbitrary white space all over the place? no indentation? that is some spicy garbage code

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        I literally have to think about dependancies every time i install a python script in Debian. It always says its externally managed and use pipx. Then its not in pipx so i have to make a venv. Any other language i download and compile and it only cares about dependancies at build time.

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          Oh I’ll agree there: whoever designed the way python works on Linux distros seems to have been brain dead. I’m also cool with any devs who think they should make user dependencies require pipx or any of the 53 not-quite-pip variants getting shot – not dead, just like in their calves or something. Small caliber. If there isn’t a simple plain pip version it’s 50/50 whether the code is ever gonna work.

          I’ll note that python also only cares about dependencies at build time.

          There are tools which allow you to build your full application including dependencies into an executable file.

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      Thats nit my problem with it. My problem is that it’s too dynamic, especially that I can’t have proper types