I want to make Linux my main OS. I’ve used Windows for decades. Since Vista or 7, the Windows security model is this, from what I understand:

  1. unprivileged programs have limited/no ability to do scary things to your computer. they might be able to read some data, but it’s not going to implant malware in the boot sequence for Windows.
  2. if a program wants escalation, it triggers a UAC popup and the user has to accept it. Remote programs cannot accept UAC on a physical person’s behalf. Escalated programs have admin level control and can do the scary things.
  3. As with any OS, there may be privilege escalation vulnerabilities that escalate (1) into (2).

I’ve only had Windows malware a few times since Win7, and the entry point was fairly avoidable. (Running a sketchy EXE, and a possible drive-by malware install via an advertisement. I could never prove the latter.)

I have never run a password on my Windows machines.


On any system, physical access is game over.


On Linux, the password is paramount. I’ve tried to understand the security model and I keep failing. Synthesizing from arch wiki

SSH

Equivalent to local physical access as the user. If it’s a sudoers or root account, it can do scary things. Not a threat if ssh is disabled or well secured (password or key pairs).

If a network has a well configured firewall (on the router), it should block ssh requests from outside the network unless the admin specifically wants SSH outside the network.

As with any OS, there may be bugs that allow remote access outside of SSH.

Local login / password prompts to physical users

Without a password, you can’t escalate to root and install new software. Some software, often dealing with hardware (smartctl) requires sudo/root to run.

Encrypted drives

Passwords can decrypt drives if they are encrypted.

Keyrings

Some DEs (KDE) offer a ‘keyring’ that stores passwords. It’s locked/encrypted with a password, usually the same as the login password.


So what am I missing? Is Windows + UAC + no password secure? What is Linux protecting us from by using passwords?

  • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.uk
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    3 hours ago

    Not really sure what you’re asking here

    Is Windows + UAC + no password secure?

    No.

    What is Linux protecting us from by using passwords?

    Bad humans & mistakes. But Linux doesn’t need passwords.

    Linux & Windows came from a command-line history, so things like UAC are just a GUI version of sudo (and there is (was?) a Linux equivalent if you wanted it)

    So, consider these as options on either OS. If you want it, it’s there, if you don’t, don’t - other options exist depending on your uae case (ie SSH keys, biometrics, etc…)

    To the point; not using a password is a choice on convenience over protection.

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      Linux & Windows came from a command-line history, so things like UAC are just a GUI version of sudo (and there is (was?) a Linux equivalent if you wanted it)

      Can confirm that the GUI versions of sudo (and similar privilege escalation interface) exist on Linux, at least for KDE, in the form of kdesu.