Of the total area that is used by humans (Agriculture, Urban and Built-up Land),

  • urban and built-up land is 1m km²,
  • agriculture is 48m km²,

so agriculture is 48 of 49 millions km² used, that’s 98%. The remaining 2% are all streets and housing and other infrastructure together.

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    I have a genuine question for you. Is your morality “might is right” or something more sophisticated? I don’t mean any offense. Just curious.

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      Passive aggressive ad hominem.

      Either engage directly with the portion of the argument you take issue with, or ask for clarification regarding the comment.

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        Okay, do you have a more polite way to ask “are you aware that you’re a nihilist?” I was genuinely curious!

        Anyway, he said he’s a rule utilitarian. So, the answer is “no.”

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          Isolate the nihilistic portions of text, quote them, explain why they are nihilistic to all the thread readers and the OP.

          Then inquire if the person you’re confronting stands by that or has a different take in it.

          Or, be rude and make it more reddit-like.

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            If your interest is legitimate, then I can explain.

            Racism, speciesism, etc. represent contradictions, and formal systems are vulnerable to the principle of explosion (ex falso quadlibet). Basically, if a contradiction is true then anything is true. That’s what makes bigotry “wrong” in the formal sense (ethics is epistemically very similar to mathematics, but that’s another story). All bigots are obligate nihilists. OP is a speciesist. Ergo, he is an obligate nihilist.

            Anyway, ethics is highly abstract, like math, and using guesswork to reach moral conclusions is generally ineffective. It’s why we had slavery for 10,000 years and Donald Trump is currently in office. There are lots of reasons why people suck at ethics, but it’s mainly lack of education. We get 12 years to study math in school (and even then most people suck at math) compared to 0 years for ethics.

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      Tacking “no offense” and “genuine question” onto what is essentially “Hey is your moral view the most basic possible description of authoritarianism or are you smarter than that?” really doesn’t help it not be offensive or make you sound genuine. If you’re sincere in those statements, I really suggest you rephrase this because right now it reads as extremely patronizing.

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      No. I guess if I really had to peg my ethical system down, I would choose rule utilitarianism or something similar. But practically, I just try to be nice to people and to do what I feel is the right thing, which I know via what is revealed to me directly via a lifetime of emotional experiences after interacting with others and making various choices.

      But I’m confused - why do you ask?

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        Well, some of your opinions made me think you were concerned with the suffering of animals (human and non), while others made me think you were not so concerned. This sort of juxtaposition is common, and it made me wonder about the way you see the world.