Christians say, “God is omnipotent. He is all-powerful. He can literally do anything, including giving people superpowers, etc. God can do ANYTHING. He could make pigs fly with a snap of the fingers; he could create infinite universes with just speaking it into existence.” But, at the same time, these same people say, “God had to send his son to die because it was the only way.”
Okay, then God is not all-powerful then, lol. He’s not omnipotent. That’s literally the opposite of omnipotence. If God is omnipotent, then he literally had infinite options. In fact, if he’s this powerful, then sending his son is a really dumb idea and makes zero sense.
I don’t know if this comparison makes sense, but in The Flash TV show, when they were fighting a speedster named Savitar, there was a building with metahuman power dampeners so you can’t use your powers inside this building. Savitar was going to kill Iris West, so what would be the smart thing to do??? Maybe put Iris in this building because Savitar can’t use his powers inside it. Case closed. It would make no sense for this option to be here but then for Team Flash to say, “We know this easier and smarter option exists, but Iris, you dying is the only way we can stop Savitar and save you.”
See what I mean? Point is, if God is omnipotent, then Jesus dying wasn’t the only way. Jesus being tortured so he could feel all the pain of sin was not necessary. If you’re saying this was the only way, then fine, but don’t say God is all-powerful and limitless, because clearly there are limits to God’s own power.
Who says it was the only way? Because I think nothing in the Bible says it was the only way, is the way God choose to so for us regular people it is the only way but as we can’t comprehend the mind of a God we can’t understand the actions either.
God is Father so one way to try to understand the actions is to try to imagine a Father teaching a kid, now imagine said kid has millions of personalities, free will, is violent, envious, luscious and most of the time the kid believes he is more powerful and more intelligent than any parent but also is mortal, weak and afraid of everything, specially himself.
Yeah none of this really makes any sense.
Matthew 26 says this was the only way.
Jesus literally say if there were another way, let us do that.
So yes, if you believe in the Bible, you believe that there’s was not another way to let the suffering pass, not another way to bring salvation to everyone.
This being said, it’s all bullshit. I studied for decades. Taught for years, served as a missionary, leader, etc. There isn’t anything on this earth that proves the asinine shit in the Bible. I’ve studied every religious text I could, read them over and over. And watched the evil shit we do, watched the damage those in every church create and allow to happen. Watched as those that are supposedly ordained of God do nothing but evil. Fuck religion. Fuck idiots that believe.
Jesus literally said: Father why have you forsaken me? He, as the son, couldn’t even fully understand it when his human side overcame the divine.
Knowing what happens and understanding why it happens are different things, I don’t understand how can you interpret Matthew 26 like that, it doesn’t say it has to only happen that way but it will happen that way because God made so. This is like arguing why a chair is called a chair and not a tablet it was decided that way but it could have been decided differently.
I didn’t know how you can deny the words that are literally written there. But you obviously believe in religion, so I understand that you make up what you want to fit your own narrative.
Happy new year to you too.
To understand the bible, you need to understand the cultural context of the time it was written.
There are so many different interpretations of the bible, what’s important, what’s the deeper meaning, and what you can ignore. Your interpretation is clearly different to the parent poster.
For an omnipotent being, kinda strange way to get your message across isn’t it? Even the most devout followers can’t agree what it all means, let alone everyone else.
Only an issue if you believe in Sola Scriptura honestly, it’s easy to understand how easily can any message get lost, manipulated and misunderstood through the centuries.
Another reason why there are so many different interpretations it’s translations and removing books for reasons. Never understood how someone decided in the last 5 centuries that a book isn’t the word of God and hence should be removed.
My main argument about all this is: if there is a God how can a person understand it’s mind?
Arbitrary decisions have been made for much longer than 5 centuries about which books are in and out of the bible, and how to change the text to suit the narrative and culture of the day
That’s kinda the point. It all comes down to what “feels right” for each person, not what’s proven to be true. How do we know any interpretation is correct, and we know what’s actually in “God’s mind”? For all we know, no interpretation is correct and we all have it wrong.