Everyone responding here and confused why this matters seem not get the point. This post is just a warning that the types of people most of us don’t want to associate with are now on that platform. The problem is not that they are verified, it’s that they exist there at all.
Edit: some reasonable arguments have been made here for allowing these Nazis on Blue sky, which I originally thought was a bad idea, but maybe disallowing them won’t actually solve anything and may exacerbate things. I don’t know. I’ll think about it some more.
Personally, I do want a common communication platform for people I despise because I want to be able to keep tabs on their public announcements. Also, I don’t want any tech platform to have sole authority over who can communicate, as in the present, that will invariably work against the left more than the right.
I do not want to share close proximity to them on a network graph, or regularly engage with their supporters, though. So I agree that federation is crucial. But to be clear, it’s not because I want to ban them from a platform, it’s because I want managed distance and better moderation.
I don’t mind Bluesky verifying them, but I’m glad that on Mastodon I don’t have to share the same giant server as them.
They have always been on there. There have been waves of brigading and trolling, etc. BlueSky’s blocking tools and options for no algorithm dramatically limit their visibility, and they eventually have no impact and get bored and eventually go away.
If it’s an official govt agency I think it makes sense for them to be allowed on communications platforms and to be verified, so that people can see what they’re saying and know that it’s an official statement.
Then people can see the post and make their own judgements about it, knowing it’s an official agency statement.
Having twitter style factcheck for blatant misinformation is also important for this, though.
How the tf would them being verified make them “on the platform” as opposed to them literally being on the platform but not verified. Total cope comment from someone who tried to back rationalise their initial reaction.
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. What about my statement means that them being there before was okay? I assume most people upset about it didn’t have a fucking clue they were there before. Not that it matters since it’s clear from your tone you’re a troll.
The original post explicitly calls them out specifically for being verified, not being on the platform. Then you walk in, dick swinging, saying “ummm ackchully it’s about them being on the platform not being verified. And you’re illiterate for being able to read and thinking otherwise 😏” yeah okay buddy keep coping
Everyone responding here and confused why this matters seem not get the point. This post is just a warning that the types of people most of us don’t want to associate with are now on that platform. The problem is not that they are verified, it’s that they exist there at all.
Edit: some reasonable arguments have been made here for allowing these Nazis on Blue sky, which I originally thought was a bad idea, but maybe disallowing them won’t actually solve anything and may exacerbate things. I don’t know. I’ll think about it some more.
Personally, I do want a common communication platform for people I despise because I want to be able to keep tabs on their public announcements. Also, I don’t want any tech platform to have sole authority over who can communicate, as in the present, that will invariably work against the left more than the right.
I do not want to share close proximity to them on a network graph, or regularly engage with their supporters, though. So I agree that federation is crucial. But to be clear, it’s not because I want to ban them from a platform, it’s because I want managed distance and better moderation.
I don’t mind Bluesky verifying them, but I’m glad that on Mastodon I don’t have to share the same giant server as them.
They have always been on there. There have been waves of brigading and trolling, etc. BlueSky’s blocking tools and options for no algorithm dramatically limit their visibility, and they eventually have no impact and get bored and eventually go away.
If it’s an official govt agency I think it makes sense for them to be allowed on communications platforms and to be verified, so that people can see what they’re saying and know that it’s an official statement.
Then people can see the post and make their own judgements about it, knowing it’s an official agency statement.
Having twitter style factcheck for blatant misinformation is also important for this, though.
Yeah, I can see that perspective too, but at the same time it’s Nazi propaganda they’re posting. There aren’t really any good options.
Yeah, but at the same time it’s kinda good for people to be able to see the kind of shit they’re posting for themselves.
It is propaganda, but it’s not good propaganda, and that’s what the community fact checking thing is meant to counter, imo.
No, that’s exactly what I thought, and I’m still confused as why this is bad? Do people want baby’s first echo chamber again?
It’s not hard to understand that people want Nazi ideology to be rejected.
I do. But… how will that happen if they are not verified…?
Yeah, I wasn’t the clearest here. I thought they shouldn’t be allowed on there at all, but I’m rethinking it now.
We also want to ensure that conservatives are repeatedly alienated so they build their own networks and never see other points of view! /s
How the tf would them being verified make them “on the platform” as opposed to them literally being on the platform but not verified. Total cope comment from someone who tried to back rationalise their initial reaction.
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. What about my statement means that them being there before was okay? I assume most people upset about it didn’t have a fucking clue they were there before. Not that it matters since it’s clear from your tone you’re a troll.
The original post explicitly calls them out specifically for being verified, not being on the platform. Then you walk in, dick swinging, saying “ummm ackchully it’s about them being on the platform not being verified. And you’re illiterate for being able to read and thinking otherwise 😏” yeah okay buddy keep coping
If you actually read the thread like I did you might get it. But yeah I’m weirdly macho and also wrong or something
If you actually read the post like I did you might get it, but yeah I’m weirdly illiterate and also wrong or something
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realisation that their own argument wasn’t consistent with what they previously commented moment
Realization that toxic douchebags who don’t see but one perspective aren’t worth arguing with moment.